28 jui 2015
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Lots of great thoughts here.
To the original question...is it in the best interest for the Hawks to make the playoffs this year?...
I personally don't think so, but I can understand the prospect development position and 100% respect that opinion. Truthfully, we'll see how things play out until Feb 24th. It's a month away and we play WPG x2, EDM, NSH, CGY, AZ, BOS, DAL, VAN, MIN etc... They're all quality teams...or teams CHI is going up against for a playoff spot. THIS is the make or break month, not March. So I hear what <a href="/users/ChiHawk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@ChiHawk</a> is saying that the schedule gets easier in March, but for me...that doesn't cut it. If you're not in the playoffs by Feb 23rd...sell and sell hard. At the very least all the pending UFAs including Lehenr. (more below) I personally don't think it's reasonable to expect a team that's hot right now, to get even hotter. This is their best hockey so far this year and if you can't beat these teams by Feb 23rd...your <strong>very</strong> likely not going to beat them in a 7 game series. So that's why I say, I don't think so. BUT if we're in the playoffs come Feb 23rd. I can understand not selling.
Sell ALL the pending UFAs because we need to address the other items you guys bring up. A.) We need another difference making winger developing in our system. B.) We need trade chips incase we need to shed cap. C.) It's entirely possible we can still sign Lehner next year. He wants a fair price wherever he goes. CHI can still do that it, but refer to B because we might need to shed cap. D.) We can't afford Gus or Crow next year Their replacements are literally on the Chicago's NHL roster already. E.) See what you can get for Saad and make a judgement call. YES he's a quality hockey player, but the TDL is the time to sell and there's always the risk of decreasing your value by having an off year...cough cough Gus...
***EDIT*** I know this is getting a bit long winded, but IMO this situation sets up PERFECTLY. The team will decide whether they're true contenders or not. Stan doesn't even need to make bold moves. He's just going to let the situation play out and he'll react. If CHI has a losing record against those teams...they'll be further out of the playoffs than they are now. If they have a winning record...they'll likely be in. Oh and a lot of these games are on the road too! Likely on the road for any playoff hopes too.</div></div>
This schedule is not as bad as people are making it out to be. With 5 pacific teams within a point of each other, it's hard to decipher which are quality and which are not, in my opinion, the hawks are equal to all of those teams (They've beaten most of these teams before). They beat Dallas in Dallas. They even beat Boston in Boston. There is a strong possibility this team is in a playoff spot by the deadline. There are many winnable games. However, I don't know if there's any need to be buyers. There is depth at every position. Strome coming back will solidify the forward depth, do you go after a rental D man? There's not much available, and there's no way anyone's trading a 1st as a wildcard team after what happened to Columbus. It will be interesting to see, but I think it's very possible. Florida is on a back to back and likely starting Montembault tonight, who struggles in the bigs. I expect a strong game from the team tonight.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I think Mac is more than speed. He's got a lot of power and a heck of a shot. It's why he was a #1OA pick. I am indeed a little worried about Bowman/Kubalik. In 2 ways. A.) Bowman will either give him a $4M contract...way too much...or...B.) Trade him for less than his value. I give Bowman a TON of credit for that steal of a trade. Kubalik for a 5th rounder... WOW great trade. But he can't fall back into the old ways where Bickell, Panik, Manning, Kruger, Seabs got contracts either work more than they provide...or are payback contracts *cough cough* Seabs. Give him a 1 year prove it contract...or just let him go to arbitration.
As a side note. I also give a ton of credit to Bowman for continuously churning these guys out! Am I right?!?! Panarin, Kempny, Rutta, Kahun, Kubalik...all for free! That's a very underrated sign of a good GM.</div></div>
I do love the ability of the hawks to find these guys. However, come on Stan, either sign them long term at decent deals OR actually get FULL value for them. Maybe the value of those trades are subjective, but I do feel objectively that he didn’t really do them enough justice. Keyword is ENOUGH.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div><a href="/users/HatterTParty" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@HatterTParty</a> Come one now Hatter. Give the kid some credit. The game wasn't perfect, but he played DARN good last night. I said not even a week ago that I'd like to see him with a little more strength with the puck. Well DANG! He showed some speed and strength last night. Probably his best game of the year. Out paced a couple Dmen. Had guys hanging all over him. Kept control of the puck. Finally got a tally. Again, not perfect. He's still 18 years old...for 1 more day... One game doesn't make a break someone, but I think I saw shades of Hossa with all those guys hanging on him. Going in the corner with literally 3 Jets on him and he's just fighting for the puck against all 3 of them.
Some more constructive criticism...only because I'm superstitious and every one in every job should strive for continuous improvement. Never settle.
I'd like to see him engage more...this is still the original topic we've discussed. Whether it's lazy ( I don't believe so ) or thinking vs reacting. He's getting better and while his point didn't come from the PP...I liked his play there too. Crash the nets...if he got elevation on the dish from Kane that would have been a goal. Can't get too mad. Toews missed a wide open net against OTT. It happens.
Absolutely, I’ll even admit he had a good game. He showed that he’s capable of using that big frame and the puck control was clean and confident. I definitely liked his end to end rush for the assist (albeit, kinda sucked the goal was a fluke). But yes, very good game. As you said, not perfect, but who is at 18. I’ll be honest though, I just really really wished his offensive game at 18 was more polished if he was allowed to stay with the team. That’s the big thing I’m very critical on him about. Two things I really see him improve on more are his shot and decision making. We both see eye to eye on the reacting vs thinking area. Lastly, maybe this is just me, but one area I’m still waiting to see his passing game get to another level. He passes well, but I really wanna see him on 2 v 1s actually convert more with teammates. I may never fully like this kid because I just don’t like guys of his archetype (I’m barely 5’9’ and have been playing 25 years, go figure). I like speed and dynamic play, like bure and mackinnon. However, he is a hawk, and I have to accept it will most likely be that way for years to come.
As a side note, is anyone else kind of nervous about kubalik with bowman in charge? Honestly, considering panarin and kahun, I’m a little nervous another great find is gonna be given away. You can see the potential in this team, I just don’t trust bowman to be the man manage the cap and keep the team together.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I probably would have sent him back for a lot of reasons. Contract status for the long term probably being #1, but as far as performance...Dach's doing just as good IMO as Hughes Kakko. So I'm not disappointed, but I...typically...prefer when kids dominate their level before jumping. Lets use Jack Hughes as an example. He can go to the OHL (where ever really) and dominate. OR come to the NHL and play like he has. Definitely has speed, vision, and playmaking ability. BUT he's never going to get compared to Dach. When people talk about Jack Hughes, they're going to compare him to McDavid, Matthews, and Dahlin. Other #1 OAs, but not #3 OA picks. To me that's terribly unfair, but also how the world works. Point being. You better be sure! Let's take another Example. Our Guy Dylan Strome. Chayka was messing up his development for sure. He stunk in AZ and was traded away WITH another 1st round pick. Move to today...there aren't toooo many players younger than him that are 100% better than him. Sure, there are players out there younger than 22 that are better than him, but not THAT many.</div></div>
Okay, so here’s my problem with the performance aspect of your thoughts. Number one, you are right, he is keeping up with Hughes and kakko. However, let’s not pretend that is impressive or saying something, cuz all three are showing that they should be in juniors.
That being said, I get that performance wise you think he belongs, but are people that desperate for success that they rush an 18 child into the nhl when he isn’t fully ready? Never mind fully ready, another year in juniors where he could learn to actually be consistent (which he has never been) and he would have probably had a decent year next and not have a wasted 1st year of his contract.
To your point on Hughes, I don’t actually think he should be compared to those other number 1s either. When I compare players, I look at player comparables, not draft position.