drewjenks

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Forum: NHL SigningsTue at 12:52 am
Forum: NHL SigningsSat at 11:57 pm
Forum: NHL SigningsSat at 11:46 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>awesome</b></div><div>as I said the moment the Matthews contract was inked. The leafs did it to themselves. They way overpaid Matthews which left them with no choice but to also overpay Marner. <strong>They have only themselves to blame.</strong></div></div>

<strong>Blame themselves for what exactly? </strong>
<strong>Are they forfeiting the season because their players are too expensive? </strong>


I think people are struggling to see the truth behind their current criticism of Toronto: <strong>"you can't fill out a team around those 4 contracts".</strong>

Their argument does makes sense ... but it's only one perspective of the situation (the worst possible perspective).

<strong>For example:</strong> Lets widen the lens a bit and compare the new cap situation to other NHL teams.


<strong>Can Toronto afford to build a team around the Top-9 forwards that they've locked in?</strong>

$11,630,000 x 5 years = Matthews
$11,000,000 x 6 years = Tavares
$10,890,000 x 6 years = Marner
$6,960,000 x 5 years = Nylander
$3,500,000 x 4 years = Kerfoot
$3,400,000 x 4 years = Johnsson
$3,200,000 x 3 years = Kapanen
$2,250,000 x 2 years = Hyman
$770,000 x 2 years = Moore (or replacement)

<strong>$53,600,000 = Total Cap-Hit</strong> (top-9 forwards)
<strong>$5,950,000 = Average Cap-Hit</strong> (top-9 forwards)

<strong>The answer to this question is an easy yes .</strong>


Many teams are actually spending a similar amount or more on their top 9 forwards (their 9 most expensive forwards).

But most of them don't have a forward group this talented:
<p class="c"><strong>Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Kerfoot - Kappy</strong></p>

However ... I still don't think Dubas did a very good job ... why TF did Lou not get one more year to negotiate these contracts ...
Forum: NHL SigningsSat at 11:36 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I have nothing against the Wild but they have been stuck in mediocrity for a long while. A comparison. Folks complain about about the Leafs paying 40.4m for their top 4 players . Next year Wild top four salaries Suter, Parise Sprurgeon and Zuccharllo 28.6m Now tell me what group of players would you rather have for the next five years. That 12m in difference is great on ice value for the Leafs.</div></div>

I think people are struggling to see the truth behind their current criticism of Toronto: <strong>"you can't fill out a team around those 4 contracts"</strong>.

Their argument does makes sense ... but it's only one perspective of the situation (the worst possible perspective).

<strong>For example:</strong> Lets widen the lens a bit and compare the new cap situation to other NHL teams.

<strong>Can Toronto afford to build a team around the TOP-9 forwards that they've locked in? </strong>

$11,630,000 x 5 years = <strong>Matthews</strong>
$11,000,000 x 6 years = <strong>Tavares</strong>
$10,890,000 x 6 years = <strong>Marner</strong>
$6,960,000 x 5 years = <strong>Nylander</strong>
$3,500,000 x 4 years = <strong>Kerfoot</strong>
$3,400,000 x 4 years = <strong>Johnsson</strong>
$3,200,000 x 3 years = <strong>Kapanen</strong>
$2,250,000 x 2 years = <strong>Hyman</strong>
$770,000 x 2 years = <strong>Moore</strong> (or replacement)

<strong>$53,600,000 = TOTAL CAP-HIT</strong> (for top-9 forwards)
<strong>$5,950,000 = AVERAGE CAP-HIT</strong> (for top-9 forwards)

<strong>The answer to this question is an easy yes .</strong>

Many teams are actually spending more than this on their top 9 forwards (or their 9 most expensive forwards).

But most of them don't have a group this talented:

<p class="c"><strong>
Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Kerfoot - Kappy
</strong></p>

But I still don't think Dubas did a very good job.
Forum: NHL SigningsSat at 5:37 pm
Forum: Armchair-GM10 sep à 19h05
Forum: Armchair-GM10 sep à 18h10
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>You do know that looking up players offensive point totals is not how you evaluate a player....like its 100% the worst way to do it.

Honestly my man you should just quit before you start to embarrass yourself, if you dont understand the role, ice time, the deployment of prospects and players, you cant evaluate one against the other. Todays example of why this is the worst way to eveulate a prospect....Vasily Podkolzin played a grand total of 30 secs in todays game in the KHL, but if you look at his Elite Prospects page, he has 0 points in 4 games? Is that troubling bc you dont know the context of the player?

His numbers are troublesome? Why? Bc thats what you decided after clicking on a profile and jumping to conclusion? Just keep to the leafs. You dont have enough knowledge on another teams prospect development to comment holistically

Just food for thought, if you dont even know that Kaut is a strong defensive forward, who plays a pro style game already...you shouldnt even be commenting on his ability to" might not even say NHL player" You really have no clue what you are taking about besides "I LOVE THE LEAFS AND I AM UPSET THAT NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE LEAFS EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN AVS ARMCHAIR GM TEAM" That is what you are coming off as now</div></div>

<strong>Kaut </strong>isn't likely to pan out man (16th overall?)
<strong>Jost </strong>didn't pan out either my man (10th overall?)
<strong>Bowers </strong>wasn't close to panning out (28th overall?)
<strong>Newhook </strong>is a BCHL wildcard just like Jost (16th overall?)
<strong>Bryam </strong>was very questionable before Turcotte (4th overall?)
<strong>Timmons </strong>hasn't really improved at all in 2 years (32nd overall?)
<strong>Johnson </strong>clearly didn't pan out in sense of the word (1st overall?)
<strong>Makar</strong> was picked one spot ahead of Elias Pettersson? (4th overall?)
<strong>Bleakley </strong>was picked one spot ahead of David Pastrnak? (23rd overall?)

<strong>MY GOODNESS .... YOU HAVE SHOWN GREAT LOYALTY TO THIS TEAM ... PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK.

</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GM10 sep à 17h57
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>You do know that looking up players offensive point totals is not how you evaluate a player....like its 100% the worst way to do it.

Honestly my man you should just quit before you start to embarrass yourself, if you dont understand the role, ice time, the deployment of prospects and players, you cant evaluate one against the other. Todays example of why this is the worst way to eveulate a prospect....Vasily Podkolzin played a grand total of 30 secs in todays game in the KHL, but if you look at his Elite Prospects page, he has 0 points in 4 games? Is that troubling bc you dont know the context of the player?

His numbers are troublesome? Why? Bc thats what you decided after clicking on a profile and jumping to conclusion? Just keep to the leafs. You dont have enough knowledge on another teams prospect development to comment holistically

Just food for thought, if you dont even know that Kaut is a strong defensive forward, who plays a pro style game already...you shouldnt even be commenting on his ability to" might not even say NHL player" You really have no clue what you are taking about besides "I LOVE THE LEAFS AND I AM UPSET THAT NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE LEAFS EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN AVS ARMCHAIR GM TEAM" That is what you are coming off as now</div></div>

<strong>"You do know that looking up players offensive point totals is not how you evaluate a player....like its 100% the worst way to do it"</strong>

OK I'll evaluate their haircut next time ....
Forum: Armchair-GM10 sep à 17h38
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>you said "And Kerfoot might end up better than Kadri in a couple years." There is no Might my man, he wont. Hes just not even close to that sort of player and if you think he COULD be good enough to actually be a 2nd line C you are going to be disappointed. Hes a nice player to have but hes a guy you shelter as the 3C with better wingers or he is a LW in your Top 6 with play driver at C.

Kerfoots game doesnt not translate to a guy as you know in Kadri who can anchor a top 6 line and be an zone driver. Pretty much impossible, he just doesnt have that skill set, and if it wasnt for Kerfoot being stapled to the top line with Mack and Landy to end the season, eh would have finished wiht 28ish points. He had something like 12 in the last 20 being on that line. Like I said Kerfoot is a nice depth guy but you can not build a line around him like you can with Kadri</div></div>

<strong>There's something you need to hear man:</strong>

Kadri has never been a "play driver" that can anchor a top 6 line (he's the grit that compliments players with more skill).
Marner was the anchor of his line during Kadri's two best seasons ... he struggles without an elite playmaker at his side.
He's not someone you can build a line around ... and he doesn't have the speed to create his own plays.

<strong>Honest to God ... Kadri's play was on the level of a solid 3C last year:</strong>

His offensive production was not there (30 even strength points / 44 total points).
His defensive awareness was not there most nights.
His skating was never great and age isn't helping.
His physicality is no longer there most nights.

<strong>Here's your problem:</strong>

- He played with Marner in <strong>both </strong>of the only two seasons he's broken 50 points (or 20 goals).
- He won't be playing with anyone close to Marner's skill in Colorado (since he won't be on your 1st line).
- He stopped driving the net and tapping in garbage goals last year (that's why his SH% dropped - not bad luck).
- He is 29 and his body isn't keep up with his old play style, so it barely comes out anymore.
- It's common for gritty players to decline in their last 20's (Simmonds, Ladd, Lucic, Komarov, Clarkson, etc).

PS: I never thought that Kerfoot was good / great ... but Kadri is declining fast at 29 while Kerfoot has room (time) to improve.
Kerfoot is also a pass first player and will likely center Kapanen / Johnsson on the 3rd line (two defensively responsible snipers - a good match).
The Leafs don't need him to be anything special ... he'll be lining up behind Matthews and Tavares and playing against mostly bottom six forwards.

Colorado's problem is that Kadri will be their 4th best forward and the best forward outside of their 1st line.
Kerfoot will be Toronto's 8th or 9th best forward and will likely be the worst player on his line.
And Barrie will probably get more points than Kadri or Kerfoot this year ... so hopefully we can re-sign him.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 sep à 16h46
Sujet: Solution
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>don't hate it.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>unless hall truly doesnt want to sign there which would come at the deadline, not now. why would nj do this?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I doubt if NJD wants to pay Marner 11.5m anymore than the Leaf do. You see how long these RFA contract negotiations have dragged out....20 months now and miraculously Hall is giving up his UFA opportunity and quickly signs with the Leafs. IMO the Leafs wouldn't want Hall for at that price for eight years....they can just sign Marner.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Paying Marner 11.5 is smarter than paying Hall 10 for 8 years when he'll be turning 29 to start his contract. Hall's style of play will lead to an earlier decline than most. His next contract if its an 8 year term will scream Corey Perry.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grok</b></div><div>lol this is a truly terrible idea. paying a 10m x 8y to a 27 year old who you think can score 90 points on your team, so you don't have to pay 11.5 x (5-7y) to a 21 year old who you know can score 90 points on your team is absolute galaxy brain takes</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>And hall is incredibly inconsistent. He never really had back to back great season.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grok</b></div><div>if i was njd i would praise my god by name if i got to sign marner for 11.5m, and all i had to give up was a rental.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>That's why the Leafs and other RFA owners aren't taking back big money in a trade....just making it too easy for the other team (Jersey in this case) to be cap compliant. Leafs would prefer the four first rounders and the 10.5m of cap space they have set aside for Marner if they were lose Marner.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Marner scores 90+ points as a 21 year old. <em>I wouldn't give him 10M+. </em>
Hall scores 90+ points as a 26 year old. <em>Give him what he wants. Now lets take him into his 30's where Im 100% sure he'll produce 90+ point seasons. Amaright?</em>

Willing to pay 10M on a 8 year term for a 28 year old but not willing to spend an extra 1.5M for a 23 year old who will be leaving his prime by the time his contract ends? SMH.

Nothing to take away from Hall. He's elite but this idea that paying Hall a tiny bit less but is far older than Marner whose is producing way better than Hall has at the same age just doesn't make sense to me.</div></div>

<strong>NO ONE</strong> ... is paying Marner $11,500,000 x 5 years.