27 jun 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Well...about ownership, Leafs, Raptors, TFC and Argos are owned by MLSE which happens to be a conglomerate of two companies (Bell and Rogers) and Larry Tannenbaum.
Jays are the team that sticks out like a sore thumb. The other thing is that the Jays have a nation wide following and even when bad, still draw better t.v. rating than most baseball teams.
I don't know...I feel the fanbase deserves better...whether that's with MLSE or not, I don't know and it's way above my pay grade. There has to be smarter people out there who can figure this out.</div></div>
Yeah I know MLSE own's the Leafs, Raps, TFC and the Argos and that they're a conglomerate company owned by Rogers, Bell and Tannenbaum. It makes no sense to add the jays to MLSE (even though I would like them to be) because Rogers owns exclusive rights over the jays and they wouldn't want to give up viewership rights to Bell and Bell and Tannenbaum wouldn't want to buy the jars or part ownership if hey don't get viewership rights.
I also get that the jays have a nation wide fan base(just like the raps) and the dan base deserves better. I guess I'm different in the fact that I try to look at things from both sides.
The fans side (not saying you) is they want the team to spen, spend, spend whereas Rogers still treats it as a business (which is not uncommon amongst most owners in all sports). Also the Jays had a top ten payroll from 2012 I believe, and most don't factor in the currency exchange rate and the fact that they have to pay the coaching staff, training staff...well everyone in American money while making most of their profit in Canadian money.
Your a smart guy and no need to turn to "smarter people" to figure this out, it's simple.... Rogers needs to do more to bring in fans but fans casual ones anyway need to understand that NO TEAM can spend top dollar every offseason and that baseball more so than the other sports fluctuates year to year for a good portion of the players and teams. Look no further than Boston or Harper, Machado...you get the point.
Also, it's hard to blame Rogers for not spending when our fan base (again casual fans and bandwagoners) don't show up to support them. Fans have it backwards thinking that their "showing" Rogers by not showing up or tuning in. This isn't to say I'm on their side or anything, I'm a fan and the last All-Star I can think of that we signed was Clemons which is absolutely unacceptable IMO. We both agree that they need to spend now while the team is young and cheap and there is no reason why Cole shouldn't be in a jays jersey next year.
Guaranteed money next year....
Gurriel Jr.-$2.966,666mill (let's just say $3mill)
Tulo-$14mill ($4mill buyout)
Arb projections(based off MLB Trade Rumors projetions)....
Giles-$8.5mill (roughly I can remember the exact amount)
Shoemaker-$3.5mill (none tender candidate)
Law-$1.5mill (again roughly and another none tender candidate)
Drury-$2.5 or 3.5mill (can't remember but I think it was 2.5)
Maile-$800k (potentially none tender as well)
Assuming we keep Shoe, Law, Maile and Drury (God I wish he would be none rendered but we both know that ain't gonna happen) and the projections are accurate....
=$16.8 to 17.8mill
That means total before pre-arb players (which I'll get to in a min)
Now the pre-arb players (I'm going to count them all at $600k even though most are about $560k)
Jansen, Mcguire, Vladdy, Bo, Biggio, Tellez, Teo, Fisher, McKinney, Davis, Alford, Urena, Espinal, Godley, Gaviglio, Thornton, Borucki, Pannone, SRF, Romano, Kay, Merryweather and Pearson at some point.
I count 23 names which obviously won't all be on the team or at least all at once but just for arguments sake let's count them all....
Add it all up and we're looking at a grand total of(drum roll please lol) $73.7-74.7mill for 31 players with a 26 man roster lets trim 5 pre-arb players which frees up $3mill. Although, like I said the Jays could none tender a few players which would free up even more. I decided to make it pre-arb players, for now, to air on the side of caution. And our new total is $70.7 to 71.7mill.
The reason why I added the extra pre-arb players is because I wanted to show you just how little we've spent to this point and why like I said there's absolutely no reason why we can't/shouldn't sign Cole and a solid #2 for our rotation and a few bp arms + a bat or two.
Sorry for the rant but that's my reasoning/point of view on this).