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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 24 heures
Sujet: Rasmus
Let's use a little science, go to <a href="https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard</a> and compare Russell and Scandella (the player Russell would need to replace).
Just to muddy the water also go to <a href="https://evolving-hockey.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://evolving-hockey.com/</a>
one and one, the first seems to favor Scandella the second Russell.
So the Sabres trade RHD for LHD a first and a prospect.
While Russell may not be an ideal roster player, the first and Puljujarvi are pretty good pieces.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SJ_Sharkie</b></div><div>Edmonton never does this. Ristolainen is very terrible. Russell is probably a better Dman than Risto. Edmonton wont trade any picks unless its a 4th or below.</div></div>
Remember Ristolainen is young, was misused, over used and never had true on ice leadership. I would like to see him remain a Sabre and watch him grow.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Edmonton and Buffalo seem to lead the league this summer in defensemen they believe are good enough to play on any team in the NHL, at about nine apiece, but neither will take any from the other team, outside of the best three or four. I wonder if that means anything.
Russell is better defensively than Ristolainen, when healthy, but that's so rare it doesn't matter. You're being offered a cap dump/LTIR guy/buried salary at a discount, a 1st, and a recent top-five bust. Like it or don't, on value, but don't panic like Russell's a key piece of value, here.</div></div>
LOL, again great analysis.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlueSeeker</b></div><div>Buffalo gets a favourable deal and you complain? What the heck is wrong with you?</div></div>
I guess, no one understands taking on cap to balance the trade.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlueSeeker</b></div><div>An unprotected first from a non playoff team for Risto? No one in their right mind would do that and yet here you are going "nah". What do you want? 2 unprotected first rounders?</div></div>
Well maybe McDavid and 2 first round picks would be fair.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 24 heures
Sujet: Avss
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Erik Karlsson was pushing for Mr. Futility for several years, until he moved to San Jose. Maybe that was about hitting a critical mass of team skill? Or maybe it's just that Karlsson now gets to play smaller minutes with easier zone starts than he's gotten since 20019-10, and the slight reduction down to 24 minutes a night, with a slight increase to 59% offensive zone starts was finally enough to make him an effective defenseman? I don't actually know. Just guessing.

But there's seriously no way Buffalo wants Ian Cole for Rasmus Ristolainen. Ulmark for a 3rd and a 5th, either.</div></div>

Well spoken. I would never want to compare Ristolainen with a myriad of defensemen, but I have maintained that he was the Sabres best defenseman up until last year and played 24 minutes a night.
Last year no Sabre defenseman had more DZ starts than he.
This is the list of defensemen who have more pts over the last 4 seasons and their age when they had their first 40 pt season:
Brent Burns 23
Erik Karlsson 21
Victor Hedman 24
Roman Josi 25
John Klingberg 23
John Carlson 25
Kristopher Letang 24
Mark Giordano 28
Torey Krug 23
Keith Yandle 24
Tyson Barrie 24
Drew Doughty 21
Ryan Suter 24
Shayne Gostisbehere 25
Morgan Rielly 24
-ustin Byfuglien 26
P.K. Subban 25
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 23
Alex Pietrangelo 21
Dougie Hamilton 23
Seth Jones 23
Two other defensemen who are noted for their offensive capability.
Erik Gustafsson 27
John Carlson 25
At 24 yo (he has not turned 25 yet) he has had four 40 pt seasons. As you said, give him fewer DZ starts, play fewer minutes, do not put him against the other teams top lines, provide some on ice leadership, I think Ristolainen will improve dramatically.
I am bemused by the number of people who think trading him for a 30 pt forward is fair.
I do not want to see him traded, Miller, Montour and Ristolainen on the Right represents the best RHD group the Sabres ever had.
Dahlin and any two LHD Sabre defensemen represents the best LHD group that the Sabres ever had LOL.
He will not be traded for what he is now, but what his potential is as well. This trade is not that.
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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 11:37 am
I cannot wait until every one else see how much Ristolainen is worth when is traded.
For the first 3 NHL years after DATM destroyed the defense, he was the only NHL caliper defenseman on the roster and Nolan, Bylsma and Housley were more or less forced to play him 24 minutes per game.
He was over used, played for a very bad team that lacked on ice leadership, offered zero accountability and was expected to learn how to play defense with out proper coaching.
He is only 24 years old and already has 4 forty point seasons.
He plays too many minutes, has too many DZ starts, plays against the other teams top lines and it appears he was put into a position to fail.
I think he has flaws, but IMO he will learn how to play defense. I seem to remember similar comments were directed to Karlsson and Weber early in their careers.
I hope he is not traded, with proper coaching he will score more, give up fewer goals, and be a much more valuable contributor.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danes1294</b></div><div>I can't wait until BUF fans see how little Ristolainen is worth when he is traded.</div></div>
You will be shocked at the return, Lebrun, who is an excellent analyst, thought Tampa would need to give up Sergachev if they wanted Ristolainen. Considering how Columbus was able to push around the Bolts, maybe BriseBois should have given up more to obtain him.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chips_n_beer</b></div><div>Couldn't agree more, he is very overpaid for what he offers</div></div>
He may be over paid, but let's see how he does with better coaching.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Good thing Peter Chiarelli isn't still the GM, or your jinx comment would have prompted him to give Buffalo Nugent-Hopkins.</div></div>
During last year off season that made more sense, when Nugent-Hopkin only had 125 pts over the previous 3 seasons (Ristolainen had 127 over the same seasons).

Let me close, Anaheim is absolutely the wrong team to target if I were a Sabre GM.
Ristolainen has been misused, overused, wrongly used for 4 seasons.
He is only 24 years old, because he has developed bad habits, it will take longer to retrain him.
I hope he is not traded, Miller, Montour and Ristolainen as RHD is awesome. I do not know why so many Sabre fans want to dump defensemen when it is the first time in years since the team has had decent defensemen.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:30 am
Sujet: ras to det
I agree that Yzerman will not trade Mantha for Ristolainen.
But the notion that Ristolainen is Alzner on steroids is unjustified.
These are the defensemen who have more pts than Ristolainen over the last 4 years and the age that they first reached 40 pts:
Brent Burns 23
Erik Karlsson 21
Victor Hedman 24
Roman Josi 25
John Klingberg 23
John Carlson 25
Kristopher Letang 24
Mark Giordano 28
Torey Krug 23
Keith Yandle 24
Tyson Barrie 24
Drew Doughty 21
Ryan Suter 24
Shayne Gostisbehere 25
Morgan Rielly 24
Dustin Byfuglien 26
P.K. Subban 25
Oliver Ekman-Larsson 23
Alex Pietrangelo 21
Dougie Hamilton 23
Seth Jones 24
Here are 2 more recent 40 pt defensemen and their age when they reached 40:
Erik Gustafsson 27
John Carlson 25
Ristolainen is 24 year old and already has four 40 pt seasons, the first before any of the players above, he was pushed into playing 24 minutes a night hoping he would figure out how to play defense on a very bad team with very bad on ice leadership.
I hope he is not traded, the team will be better with him. I hope his role is reduced, with Montour and Miller he should be limited to 20 minutes a game, 3 or more on the PP and none on the PK. IMO his +/- will be reduced and his pts will go up.
Last year only McCabe had fewer OZ starts than Ristolainen, for the first 3 years as a Sabre, he was the ONLY NHL quality defensemen, so obviously his stats would look bad.
So let's agree, DET and BUF do not make a trade.

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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>But it would easier just move AA back to D. He probably score more and since their defensive skills are pretty even and that way we don't have to give up Mantha.</div></div>
You know the Wings better than I, I seem to remember Bowman would play Fedorov on defense, so maybe AA would be a good idea.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>yeah so would Aadm Larsson</div></div>
LOL, the Wings defense is that bad?
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 8:47 am
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 8:10 am
Sujet: Anaheim
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 7:39 am
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 11:20 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Larsson and Girg for 6th round picks? 30 GMs line up to outbid those.</div></div>
I seem to be the only Sabre fan who actually watch them control the puck. My son and I used to call it the magnetic stick, the puck is glued to their sticks.
Their DZ start is 85% yet they control the play and finish the season with 50% corsi for.
It seems every other ACGM wants to trade them for nothing. While I think they are challenged, but they do their jobs well.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Edmonton should not trade their 2020 1st round pick, maybe if it was their 2021 1st but no way they should deal their next 1st round pick.
2021 1st, Pulujarvi, Gagner For Ristolainen</div></div>
I think Gagner is viewed as a cap dump and a negative in this trade, but I think he would do really well in Buffalo. Imagine if he had to play with Johansson and Okposo. He just may break 50 pts with them on his wings.
Puljujarvi is a mystery, wrapped in a puzzle inside of an enigma. I do not know haw to value him, he may be better than Alex Nylander, then this trade would be a huge win for Buffalo.
As for me, make it 2022 if you want. Getting first round picks has a nice sound.
EDIT: Every Sabre fan wants to trade Ristolainen for a 50 pt forward, There is a solid chance that Gagner could return to his level of play he demonstrated while in Columbus, and Buffalo would also get a prospect and a first.
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