4 mar 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>You are creating your own narrative here, yes Macks PPG is that but that also is bc of his rough ELC years, what he is now vs what he is today are completely different, and its not a flash in the pain 2.25 seasons of dominance, its a real conversation. Also you are taking 374 games randomly so that exudes his rookie season which your total magically starts with worse season, his sophomore season?
Sorry man you are trying to hard to make some magical bracket comparison, which is using mackinnons ELC years to drag down his PPG to compare to mcdavid, this is the definition of creating your own narrative
McDavid is the best player in the world there is no denying that, but the fact you are trying to use macks ELC totals to discredit MacKinnon today and what he has been like stacking up to the best in the world the past 2.25 seasons....dude what are you even doing, if you want to make this arguement compare Mack to McDavid when he enterted into the best in the world conversation, what he did before that is irrelevant.
Mack 174gms 222pts 1.27 ppg
McDavid 180gms 255pts 1.41 ppg
So to my earlier point, is roughly 20 more points worth double the cap hit...no its not</div></div>
So... you're saying that MacKinnon IN HIS PRIME is not as good as McDavid BEFORE HIS PRIME... got it.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>McDavid is the best player in the world, but MacKinnon is right there next to him and costs half as much.
Barely get better at Fwd</div></div>
McDavid and MacKinnon aren't close.
Here's Mackinnon's career stats on his 23rd birthday:
374, 114-189-303 0.81 p/gp
McDavid doesn't turn 23 until January, at which time his projected stats are:
334, 154-291-445 1.33 p/gp
Not close. Now lets compare how each player has scored in the past 3.25 years - since the beginning of 2016-17:
McDavid: 262, 123-232-355 1.35 p/gp
MacKinnon: 256, 107-168-275 1.07 p/gp
Even Leon Draisaitl has done better: 262, 119-169-288 1.10 p/gp
Clearly Makar is a better offensive talent than Nurse, but I highly doubt he'll continue scoring at his current pace all season. We still don't know exactly how good he'll be because he only has played 18 NHL games. At that age Nurse had played over 100 and we certainly didn't know what we had then.
And the contracts are only cheaper for the short term, over the long term Mack + Makar will be more expensive as I illustrated above: Makar will get more than Nurse in his next contract and MacKinnon will probably get a similar contract to McDavid in 3 years. McDavid is locked in for 8 at this rate, Nurse will likely get an 8-year deal next summer. All this isn't to say that the trade is fair, it's to say that Edmonton rejects the proposal. I guess you could say we reached the same conclusion but for different reasons.