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Time to trade

Créé par: Stan_Bowman
Date de création initiale: déc 14, 2019
Publié: Dec 14, 2019 at 12:56 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Blackhawks de Chicago
Transactions
CHI
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. 2020 1e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2020 3e round pick (BUF)
CAR
  1. Lehner, Robin (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. 2020 5e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Lehner extension is not done at the TDL.

The third-round pick is conditional on him signing an extension.
CHI
  1. 2020 2e round pick (CHI)
Conditional third-round (2021) pick if Gus signs and extension.
MTL
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
Détails additionnels:
HabsForEver "Montreal Rejects"
CHI
  1. 2021 3e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Määttä, Olli
CHI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Ceci, Cody
TOR
  1. Shaw, Andrew
  2. Caggiula, Drake
  3. Holm, Philip
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Robin Lehner: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
CHI
TOR
CHI
CHI
BUF
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
WPG
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $75 687 628 $0 $7 557 500 $5 812 372 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
778 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Kane, Patrick
10 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Saad, Brandon
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
925 000 $
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
863 333 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
CHI
Smith, Zack
3 250 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 2
CHI
Kämpf, David
1 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CHI
Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
894 167 $
DD
RFA - 3
CHI
Crawford, Corey
6 000 000 $
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Murphy, Connor
3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
3 125 000 $
G
UFA - 2
CHI
Gilbert, Dennis
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Ceci, Cody
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
CHI
Sikura, Dylan
750 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
4 550 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
CHI
Koekkoek, Slater
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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14 déc 2019 à 12 h 57
#1
Go Hawks
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I’ve been trading Gus to VGK just to get rid of annoying Habs fans recently. Works like a charm.
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14 déc 2019 à 12 h 58
#2
exo2769
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I really do think MB's making those trips to see if he thinks Gus would fit his team. It all depends on the return. I'd actually prefer sending Smith to MTL to help their 28th PK. Not sure how the pick would be affected, but Smith can at least play some pretty good PK.
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14 déc 2019 à 13 h 01
#3
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Change Caggiula and Holm to Murphy and you have a deal.
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 01
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#NylanderTruther
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Quoting: exo2769
I really do think MB's making those trips to see if he thinks Gus would fit his team. It all depends on the return. I'd actually prefer sending Smith to MTL to help their 28th PK. Not sure how the pick would be affected, but Smith can at least play some pretty good PK.


They have the cap space and forward slot to accommodate.

However, it is hard for Zach Smith to kill penalties from inside of the box.
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 02
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Change Caggiula and Holm to Murphy and you have a deal.


You're not getting Murphy and Shaw for Kap and Ceci. You're probably not getting Murphy straight up for Kap although based on needs I would lean to doing that trade.
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 06
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We should definitely not trade both Shaw and Caggs, but one of them should be traded for sure.

We can do better on Lehner. Mrazek is a decent backup and we would probably have to swallow him or Reimer in any deal which is unfortunate as I think both Lankinen should get a chance to play backup next year. Mrazek or Reimer are definitely not starters. As such, even as a rental, Lehner will demand more then a 1st round pick and a backup goalie. The 3rd maybe should be a 4th and conditional to a 2nd or even 1st rounder if Lehner signs an extension. Top 5 goalies don't grow on trees and for Carolina, that is the difference of them being a cup team and not.
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 21
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Haha

"Montreal Rejects"
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 22
#8
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Quoting: ChiHawk
You're not getting Murphy and Shaw for Kap and Ceci. You're probably not getting Murphy straight up for Kap although based on needs I would lean to doing that trade.


If you rejected Kap and Ceci for Murphy and another asset you don't want to rebuild. Murphy isn't anything overly special, he's good but he's not a game changer. Getting a fast forward who can grow with a young core is far more valuable to a rebuilding team than a stay at home defenceman.
14 déc 2019 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
If you rejected Kap and Ceci for Murphy and another asset you don't want to rebuild. Murphy isn't anything overly special, he's good but he's not a game changer. Getting a fast forward who can grow with a young core is far more valuable to a rebuilding team than a stay at home defenceman.


Actually Murphy has been by far our best defenseman this season and has gotten better every single year in the league. His defensive prowess is something that all teams need, and I'm not willing to give him up for a forward who might become a top-six forward one day. Connor Murphy is 26 and entering his prime years as a defenseman in the NHL, his timeline fits within the Blackhawks competing in 2-3 years.

You might not see murphy in the same light, but the only view that matters for murphy is the Blackhawks. We will not trade him unless we get a bonafide top 6 winger back (Not saying from the leafs).
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14 déc 2019 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Actually Murphy has been by far our best defenseman this season and has gotten better every single year in the league. His defensive prowess is something that all teams need, and I'm not willing to give him up for a forward who might become a top-six forward one day. Connor Murphy is 26 and entering his prime years as a defenseman in the NHL, his timeline fits within the Blackhawks competing in 2-3 years.

You might not see murphy in the same light, but the only view that matters for murphy is the Blackhawks. We will not trade him unless we get a bonafide top 6 winger back (Not saying from the leafs).


Well getting wingers for TO is just shuffling deck chairs. Murphy would be a must if they are parting with Kapanen otherwise it makes no sense.
 
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