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cheap TDL deals if we are in playoffs

Créé par: papishark
Date de création initiale: déc 9, 2019
Publié: Dec 10, 2019 at 2:46 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Sharks de San Jose
Transactions
SJS
  1. Crawford, Corey (3 000 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Dell, Aaron
  2. 2020 3e round pick (PHI)
SJS
  1. Fast, Jesper
NYR
  1. 2021 4e round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. 2020 3e round pick (PIT)
  2. 2021 3e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Dillon, Brenden
Rachats de contrats
  • Paul Martin: 1 416 667 $
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PIT
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OTT
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WSH
2021
SJS
SJS
PIT
SJS
SJS
SJS
2022
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
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2481 500 000 $80 292 417 $660 750 $410 000 $1 207 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
SJS
Kane, Evander
7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 6
SJS
Couture, Logan
8 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 8
SJS
Labanc, Kevin
1 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
SJS
Meier, Timo
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
5 625 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
NYR
Fast, Jesper
1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
SJS
Sörensen, Marcus
1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
SJS
Thornton, Joe
2 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
SJS
Goodrow, Barclay
925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
SJS
Marleau, Patrick
700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
SJS
Gambrell, Dylan
700 000 $
C
RFA - 2
SJS
Karlsson, Melker
2 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
7 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
11 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
SJS
Jones, Martin
5 750 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
SJS
Simek, Radim
675 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
SJS
Burns, Brent
8 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
CHI
Crawford, Corey
3 000 000 $
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
SJS
Ferraro, Mario
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
SJS
Heed, Tim
960 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
SJS
Prout, Dalton
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
SJS
Suomela, Antti
700 000 $
C
RFA - 1
SJS
Bergmann, Lean
836 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
SJS
Gregor, Noah
768 333 $
C
RFA - 2

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10 déc 2019 à 15 h 11
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MisstheWhalers
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Won't you need Dillon for the playoffs?
10 déc 2019 à 15 h 14
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exo2769
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Won't you need Dillon for the playoffs?


Hawks pass. Dell is a negative and Crow is worth more than a 3rd.
10 déc 2019 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Won't you need Dillon for the playoffs?


Not as much as we need forward and goalie depth.
10 déc 2019 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: exo2769
Hawks pass. Dell is a negative and Crow is worth more than a 3rd.


Show me one example of a UFA goalie with a .912 save percentage getting more than a third and il agree. Think its more likely that hawks dont end up trading him and he just resigns while Lehner cashes in at UFA
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10 déc 2019 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: papishark
Show me one example of a UFA goalie with a .912 save percentage getting more than a third and il agree. Think its more likely that hawks dont end up trading him and he just resigns while Lehner cashes in at UFA


There aren't too many goalie trades in general. It gets even harder for SOLO goalie trades for ONLY picks. Further more it matters whether or not you believe Crow would be the starter. I do believe he's better than Jones AND he's got 2 cups so he's a proven playoff performer, BUT if you think he'll be the backup I'd just suggest you look elsewhere. There will certainly be cheaper options out there. I just wouldn't trade crow for a 3rd. Would rather keep him and let him walk. He'd mean more to the Hawks trying and failing for a playoff spot than a 3rd.

Some trades comps are
Cam Talbot to EDM for a 2nd & 3rd
Brian Elliot for a 2nd & 3rd There were some conditions attached to this trade

***EDIT*** I'm not saying SJ should give up Merkley or anything crazy. Go for a Kinkaid or Sparks or a real backup if you want a backup.
10 déc 2019 à 16 h 02
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Quoting: exo2769
There aren't too many goalie trades in general. It gets even harder for SOLO goalie trades for ONLY picks. Further more it matters whether or not you believe Crow would be the starter. I do believe he's better than Jones AND he's got 2 cups so he's a proven playoff performer, BUT if you think he'll be the backup I'd just suggest you look elsewhere. There will certainly be cheaper options out there. I just wouldn't trade crow for a 3rd. Would rather keep him and let him walk. He'd mean more to the Hawks trying and failing for a playoff spot than a 3rd.
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Some trades comps are
Cam Talbot to EDM for a 2nd & 3rd
Brian Elliot for a 2nd & 3rd There were some conditions attached to this trade

***EDIT*** I'm not saying SJ should give up Merkley or anything crazy. Go for a Kinkaid or Sparks or a real backup if you want a backup.


But Crow is a backup at this point in his career. Not to mention he is a rental. I agree it should be more though. Something like Alex True, 3rd round pick for Crow with some retained salary.

No way in hell is crow worth Merkley. Not even worth mentioning.
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10 déc 2019 à 16 h 26
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
But Crow is a backup at this point in his career. Not to mention he is a rental. I agree it should be more though. Something like Alex True, 3rd round pick for Crow with some retained salary.

No way in hell is crow worth Merkley. Not even worth mentioning.


I was just trying to make a point that I'm not trying to go crazy for a return on Crow. I think we're on the same page there. I actuallly think would be a starter in SJ for sure, in CAR for sure, Maybe even FLA and PHI. Brian Elliot has enough history to know he's not the guy you want in net for the playoffs and Carter Hart may not be ready to get tossed into the playoffs. BOB needs a huge bounce back too.

$3M in retained salary is a must. Understood. Alex True is a career AHLer and on a pretty bad Barracuda team. I really don't think he moves the needle in a trade. The prospect would need to be a real prospect that's not in the AHL. Maybe the pick drops or to a later year, but a Dillon Hamaliuk or Artemi Kniazev
10 déc 2019 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: exo2769
I was just trying to make a point that I'm not trying to go crazy for a return on Crow. I think we're on the same page there. I actuallly think would be a starter in SJ for sure, in CAR for sure, Maybe even FLA and PHI. Brian Elliot has enough history to know he's not the guy you want in net for the playoffs and Carter Hart may not be ready to get tossed into the playoffs. BOB needs a huge bounce back too.

$3M in retained salary is a must. Understood. Alex True is a career AHLer and on a pretty bad Barracuda team. I really don't think he moves the needle in a trade. The prospect would need to be a real prospect that's not in the AHL. Maybe the pick drops or to a later year, but a Dillon Hamaliuk or Artemi Kniazev


Yeah no not happening, I respect your opinion but those are two good prospects. Any team would be dumb to trade a good prospect and a pick for a UFA goalie that has a high salary and very average numbers. The Talbot trade was for a much younger talbot with much better numbers and contract left. Same with the Elliott trade, he had contract years and amazing numbers when he was moved.
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10 déc 2019 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: papishark
Yeah no not happening, I respect your opinion but those are two good prospects. Any team would be dumb to trade a good prospect and a pick for a UFA goalie that has a high salary and very average numbers


I appreciate the honest and respectful response! Honest question. Isn't SJ trying to win now though? Wouldn't it feel like they're only half way going for it if they don't get a TRUE starting goalie? They've already spent so much draft capital and pure salary/cap to win this year.
10 déc 2019 à 16 h 37
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Quoting: exo2769
I appreciate the honest and respectful response! Honest question. Isn't SJ trying to win now though? Wouldn't it feel like they're only half way going for it if they don't get a TRUE starting goalie?


Crawford is a very average starter but why would we overpay when their are other options? If I was going to pay heavily for a goalie, I would make it someone that would either extend with us for cheap, or still have contract years.
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10 déc 2019 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: exo2769
I was just trying to make a point that I'm not trying to go crazy for a return on Crow. I think we're on the same page there. I actuallly think would be a starter in SJ for sure, in CAR for sure, Maybe even FLA and PHI. Brian Elliot has enough history to know he's not the guy you want in net for the playoffs and Carter Hart may not be ready to get tossed into the playoffs. BOB needs a huge bounce back too.

$3M in retained salary is a must. Understood. Alex True is a career AHLer and on a pretty bad Barracuda team. I really don't think he moves the needle in a trade. The prospect would need to be a real prospect that's not in the AHL. Maybe the pick drops or to a later year, but a Dillon Hamaliuk or Artemi Kniazev


Quoting: exo2769
I was just trying to make a point that I'm not trying to go crazy for a return on Crow. I think we're on the same page there. I actuallly think would be a starter in SJ for sure, in CAR for sure, Maybe even FLA and PHI. Brian Elliot has enough history to know he's not the guy you want in net for the playoffs and Carter Hart may not be ready to get tossed into the playoffs. BOB needs a huge bounce back too.

$3M in retained salary is a must. Understood. Alex True is a career AHLer and on a pretty bad Barracuda team. I really don't think he moves the needle in a trade. The prospect would need to be a real prospect that's not in the AHL. Maybe the pick drops or to a later year, but a Dillon Hamaliuk or Artemi Kniazev

You need to re-assess what a rental actually is.

Talk about over valuing a 34 year old rental backup tender, jeez...
 
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