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Ottawa Calgary Trades

Créé par: CHUG
Date de création initiale: déc 9, 2019
Publié: Dec 9, 2019 at 11:22 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
Desmith could be added to calgary trade to fix their backup needs and to balance the trade if needed and pens could take back Talbot and bury in the minors to even the salaries. Is the other trade fair?
Figure Galchenyuk, Hallander and second is overpay for Pageau and to pay for MacArthur so Ottawa take JJ to even the deal.
Feel like Pageau could also take on a Guentzel role on the wing for one of Crosby or Malkin if McCann fills the 3C role well, just another option, because clearly Pageau can put the puck in the net and Guentzel can't play on both lines
Transactions
PIT
  1. Brodie, TJ
CGY
  1. Simon, Dominik
  2. Bjugstad, Nick
  3. 2020 4e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. MacArthur, Clarke
OTT
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Hållander, Filip
  3. Johnson, Jack
  4. 2021 2e round pick (PIT)
Enfoui
  • Casey DeSmith: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $74 574 525 $132 500 $3 832 500 $6 925 475 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
OTT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
3 100 000 $
C
UFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
767 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
CGY
Brodie, TJ
4 650 400 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
5 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
675 000 $
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
925 000 $
D
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
OTT
MacArthur, Clarke
4 650 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
850 000 $
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Noesen, Stefan
700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Rust, B.
Malkin, E.
Letang, K.
Avantage numérique 2
Hörnqvist, P.
Pageau, J.
McCann, J.
Kahun, D.
Schultz, J.
Infériorité numérique 1
Blueger, T.
Tanev, B.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Infériorité numérique 2
Aston-Reese, Z.
Rust, B.
Brodie, T.
Marino, J.

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9 déc 2019 à 11 h 39
#1
... We're a "Team"..
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I think the Pageau package is pretty good considering. But Ottawa won't take Johnson for MacArthur.

Melnyk likes the MacArthur contract because;
1- That contract is insured (only pays a certain % of it).
2- It has 0 years left after this year.

Johnson needs a sweetner of his own (I.E. another prospect and higher round pick).
9 déc 2019 à 11 h 48
#2
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Quoting: Green4D4Again
I think the Pageau package is pretty good considering. But Ottawa won't take Johnson for MacArthur.

Melnyk likes the MacArthur contract because;
1- That contract is insured (only pays a certain % of it).
2- It has 0 years left after this year.

Johnson needs a sweetner of his own (I.E. another prospect and higher round pick).


Pens could also take one of the Gaborik or Callahan contracts instead of MacArthur's and I am implying that the overpay for Pageau and the contract coming back is the sweetener for taking JJ. Could look at it more like
Gally + Hallander for Pageau + LTIR Contract
2nd to take JJ
9 déc 2019 à 12 h 08
#3
... We're a "Team"..
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Quoting: CHUG
Pens could also take one of the Gaborik or Callahan contracts instead of MacArthur's and I am implying that the overpay for Pageau and the contract coming back is the sweetener for taking JJ. Could look at it more like
Gally + Hallander for Pageau + LTIR Contract
2nd to take JJ


Again, those contracts are insured. As long as Melnyk isn't paying full price for them, they'll stay as cap crunchers so Ottawa isn't penalized for cap circumvention.

You also have to factor in that Ottawa doesn't need or want another aging LHD. They have a mad surplus on up and coming LHD's that are going to need a spot on the roster (Wolanin, Brannstrom, Lajoie, Tychonik). JJ takes away that opportunity... for the next 3 years after as well. It doesn't make sense for Ottawa to take Johnson unless the offer is of significant value to the organization.

So, as it stands: Hallander, Galchenyuk and a 2nd for Pageau is a decent package to improve your centre depth and rid you of Galchenyuk. Johnson will remain a Penguin for the time being unless he's packaged with a nice shiny 1st round pick.
9 déc 2019 à 12 h 25
#4
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You mean like the big sweetener that everyone said would need to be added to move Gudbranson?

Plus, Johnson would be arguably the 3rd best D on Ottawa.
9 déc 2019 à 13 h 16
#5
Rejoint: jun 2018
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These trades are absolute garbage. That ottawa trade makes me sick. All MacArthur does is hurt the penguins cap (that's not how LTIR works). Giving up way too much for pageau. The only reason he is doing so well this year is because someone on Ottawas team has to score. Put him on the pens and he would be a decent player at best.
 
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