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Créé par: mhockey91
Date de création initiale: nov 12, 2019
Publié: Nov 12, 2019 at 11:59 am
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan1975 000 $
Kahun, Dominik22 500 000 $
McCann, Jared22 750 000 $
Simon, Dominik22 500 000 $
Murray, Matt86 800 000 $
Pettersson, Marcus53 900 000 $
Riikola, Juuso1900 000 $
Lafferty, Sam1950 000 $
Johnson, Adam1900 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Hall, Taylor711 250 000 $
van Riemsdyk, Trevor42 800 000 $
Karlsson, Melker1950 000 $
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PIT
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    ANA
    1. Johnson, Jack
    2. Légaré, Nathan
    3. 2021 2e round pick (PIT)
    PIT
      teams will take him
      CGY
      1. Hörnqvist, Patric
      PIT
      1. 2021 3e round pick (MIN)
      MIN
      1. Bjugstad, Nick
      Enfoui
      • Casey DeSmith: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
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      Guentzel, Jake
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      AG, AD
      UFA - 4
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      Crosby, Sidney
      8 700 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      PIT
      Simon, Dominik
      2 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      RFA
      Hall, Taylor
      11 250 000 $
      AG, C
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      Malkin, Evgeni
      9 500 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      PIT
      Rust, Bryan
      3 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      PIT
      Kahun, Dominik
      2 500 000 $
      AG, AD, C
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      McCann, Jared
      2 750 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA
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      Tanev, Brandon
      3 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      NTC
      UFA - 5
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      Lafferty, Sam
      950 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA
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      Blueger, Teddy
      750 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Aston-Reese, Zach
      1 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      PIT
      Johnson, Adam
      900 000 $
      C, AG
      RFA
      Karlsson, Melker
      950 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      Dumoulin, Brian
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      Letang, Kris
      7 250 000 $
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      NMC NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Murray, Matt
      6 800 000 $
      G
      RFA
      PIT
      Pettersson, Marcus
      3 900 000 $
      DG
      RFA
      van Riemsdyk, Trevor
      2 800 000 $
      DD
      UFA
      PIT
      Jarry, Tristan
      975 000 $
      G
      RFA
      PIT
      Riikola, Juuso
      900 000 $
      D
      RFA
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      Marino, John
      925 000 $
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      RFA - 1
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      Ruhwedel, Chad
      700 000 $
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      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 03
      #1
      Biased Opinion
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      I think Hall makes 12 next summer. If he can make NJ somewhat relevant he should be making almost McDavid money. I mean, if Tanev is worth 3.5...
      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 18
      #2
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      Still too much to move JJ, it shouldn't cost much more than a second if at all next offseason
      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 34
      #3
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Still too much to move JJ, it shouldn't cost much more than a second if at all next offseason


      If he keeps playing the way he has been all year it won't be hard to move him at all. Could probably move him without giving anything else up. Similar to the gudbranson trade.
      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 38
      #4
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      Quoting: Barbs
      I think Hall makes 12 next summer. If he can make NJ somewhat relevant he should be making almost McDavid money. I mean, if Tanev is worth 3.5...


      I mean he could get offered that. but what competitive teams have that kind of cap space? he may take a little less to play for a contender. also consistency and injuries hurt his value
      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 41
      #5
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Still too much to move JJ, it shouldn't cost much more than a second if at all next offseason


      hes played better this season thats forsure. but that contract is still a stinker. hes got 3 years left. you're gonna have to give up a decent prospect to move him
      12 nov 2019 à 12 h 47
      #6
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      Still too much to move JJ, it shouldn't cost much more than a second if at all next offseason


      But how else are you going to give Pettersson $3.9Mx5? (Instantly making Pettersson the worst contract on the team, including the $3.5M Tanev)
      12 nov 2019 à 13 h 20
      #7
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      Quoting: Yojimbo
      But how else are you going to give Pettersson $3.9Mx5? (Instantly making Pettersson the worst contract on the team, including the $3.5M Tanev)


      lmaoooo because hes a good defensemen who took a major paycut. okay if you find 3.9 steep thats fine, but he'll certainly make over 3 million
      AFOX10900 a aimé ceci.
      12 nov 2019 à 13 h 48
      #8
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      hes played better this season thats forsure. but that contract is still a stinker. hes got 3 years left. you're gonna have to give up a decent prospect to move him


      if buried, he makes just over 2 mil... that's a total of 6 mil, but it's split over 3 years, making it MUCH MUCH easier to manage, plus with the projected massive cap rise in two years, he makes almost nothing in terms of cap hit%...
      12 nov 2019 à 14 h 15
      #9
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      lmaoooo because hes a good defensemen who took a major paycut. okay if you find 3.9 steep thats fine, but he'll certainly make over 3 million


      I said from go this summer that he needed to just accept his QO and actually prove that he was decent, and not what he was in Anaheim. He ended up signing for his QO amount. It wasn't a pay cut, it is what he should have done two months prior.
      12 nov 2019 à 14 h 35
      #10
      bigZ
      Rejoint: jun 2019
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      hes played better this season thats forsure. but that contract is still a stinker. hes got 3 years left. you're gonna have to give up a decent prospect to move him


      No ur not
      12 nov 2019 à 14 h 38
      #11
      Insta Kempe_is_saad`
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      hall is not signing with Pittsburgh. he will instead sign with LA when they get Alexis Lafreniere (LAFFY TAFFY)
      12 nov 2019 à 15 h 32
      #12
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      Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
      hall is not signing with Pittsburgh. he will instead sign with LA when they get Alexis Lafreniere (LAFFY TAFFY)


      I would say Pittsburgh has a better shot. I think Avs are the most logical though
      12 nov 2019 à 15 h 33
      #13
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      if buried, he makes just over 2 mil... that's a total of 6 mil, but it's split over 3 years, making it MUCH MUCH easier to manage, plus with the projected massive cap rise in two years, he makes almost nothing in terms of cap hit%...


      Over 2 million a year is still a waste of cap space. Sure it doesn’t seem a lot but When attempting to sign a free agent (like hall) it is a huge factor. Zero chance hall accepts 9 million, but 11 million could get it done
      12 nov 2019 à 15 h 34
      #14
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      Quoting: bigZ98
      No ur not


      I really hope I’m wrong, believe me. And I don’t see Johnson in a pens jersey next year. I hope Rutherford can pull some witchcraft and move him for as little as possible. But I personally think it’ll cost a 2nd round pick + a solid prospect
      12 nov 2019 à 15 h 35
      #15
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      Quoting: Yojimbo
      I said from go this summer that he needed to just accept his QO and actually prove that he was decent, and not what he was in Anaheim. He ended up signing for his QO amount. It wasn't a pay cut, it is what he should have done two months prior.


      Well he’s arguably our 3rd best D. I see him signing in the 3-4 million range
      12 nov 2019 à 15 h 58
      #16
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      Over 2 million a year is still a waste of cap space. Sure it doesn’t seem a lot but When attempting to sign a free agent (like hall) it is a huge factor. Zero chance hall accepts 9 million, but 11 million could get it done


      That's why they wouldn't do it July first, a second and Legare is more than TOR gave up to move Marleau, and JJ's contract isn't nearly as bad lol
      12 nov 2019 à 16 h 10
      #17
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      Quoting: AFOX10900
      That's why they wouldn't do it July first, a second and Legare is more than TOR gave up to move Marleau, and JJ's contract isn't nearly as bad lol


      I mean no I’d still rather have a first than a 2nd and legare. He was a good pick but I’m not 100% sold he’s fast enough to play in this league. He’s not having a “great” start to the season this year. And that’s also debatable. Marleau had a higher cap hit sure, but it was 1 year vs 3. Id say Johnson’s was worse.
      12 nov 2019 à 16 h 15
      #18
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      I mean no I’d still rather have a first than a 2nd and legare. He was a good pick but I’m not 100% sold he’s fast enough to play in this league. He’s not having a “great” start to the season this year. And that’s also debatable. Marleau had a higher cap hit sure, but it was 1 year vs 3. Id say Johnson’s was worse.


      If teams would rather have a 1 yr penalty than two+, why do we see so many buyouts each year lol, the lower the cap it the player comes at the more manageable it is, plus teams will buyout players when they don't even get the full 1/2 salary cut for 2x the length lol, this is 3x the length, but a full 1/3 price reduction, AND the cap is going to go drastically up for the last 2 years of his deal, and most teams know that
      13 nov 2019 à 8 h 34
      #19
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      I would say Pittsburgh has a better shot. I think Avs are the most logical though


      they wont have cap space unless murray is under paid shultz and galchenyuk would have to leave
      13 nov 2019 à 8 h 58
      #20
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      Quoting: Daddy_Crosby
      they wont have cap space unless murray is under paid shultz and galchenyuk would have to leave


      I mean they'd have to move out guys but its certainly possible
       
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