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Nashville Predators signed Roman Josi (8 Years / $9,059,000 AAV)

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29 oct à 12 h 48
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Roman Josi has signed a new contract with the Nashville Predators.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
COMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 8 ANNÉES
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Predators de NashvillePredators de Nashville
VALEUR: 72 472 000 $
% DU C.H. : 11,12
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 29 octobre 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2020-21NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $11 000 000 $750 000 $11 750 000 $11 750 000 $
2021-22NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $10 000 000 $750 000 $10 750 000 $10 750 000 $
2022-23NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $9 000 000 $750 000 $9 750 000 $9 750 000 $
2023-24NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $4 000 000 $5 000 000 $9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
2024-25NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $0 $9 000 000 $9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
2025-26NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $0 $8 000 000 $8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
2026-27NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $0 $7 222 000 $7 222 000 $7 222 000 $
2027-28NMC9 059 000 $9 059 000 $0 $0 $7 000 000 $7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
TOTAL72 472 000 $72 472 000 $0 $34 000 000 $38 472 000 $72 472 000 $72 472 000 $
29 oct à 12 h 50
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Of course they got it done.
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29 oct à 12 h 50
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Josi is well worth the money but you cannot give 8 years at a high cap hit to past their prime players. This along with some of the sharks contracts have buyout written all over it sometime after 2024.
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29 oct à 12 h 54
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Quoting: Random2152
Josi is well worth the money but you cannot give 8 years at a high cap hit to past their prime players. This along with some of the sharks contracts have buyout written all over it sometime after 2024.


Josi is 29 probably plays good hockey till he is 36-37 so I think this is worth the term, at least he isn't signed for that extra 2m contracts like Karlsson are at. I feel like with increased cap in time this will be OK when he is older and around 2026-28 when the contract is big for his skill level the cap will hopefully be closer to 105-110m which is decent.
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29 oct à 12 h 55
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It's kind of funny that he signed essentially a Subban contract...
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29 oct à 12 h 57
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Josi is 29 probably plays good hockey till he is 36-37 so I think this is worth the term, at least he isn't signed for that extra 2m contracts like Karlsson are at. I feel like with increased cap in time this will be OK when he is older and around 2026-28 when the contract is big for his skill level the cap will hopefully be closer to 105-110m which is decent.


A players peak years END at 26-27 y/o.
A player goes into serious decline around 30.
Josi will be 30 when this 8 year 9.059 contract STARTS.
He is a fantastic dman, of that there is no doubt but expecting him to be worth it past the first couple years is ludicrous. This is a bad deal through and through.
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29 oct à 12 h 58
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What's that new trend, players having their number in the cap hit, making ugly numbers
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29 oct à 12 h 58
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As of writing this Josi is considered an elite defender. The contract is fair value for now but in year 3-4 of the deal it’ll start to be questionable.
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29 oct à 13 h 00
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That's pretty steep. And they also give him a shiny NMC the entire way; have fun with that in a few years.
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29 oct à 13 h 02
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Bad deal
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29 oct à 13 h 06
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Predators are banking on him being productive through his 30s. Definitely a "win now" contract, great for the first few years.

I prefer this to the deal Karlsson signed considering Josi doesn't have the injury history.
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29 oct à 13 h 10
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Great signing. Some have posted that serious declines for players happen in their late 20s early 30s which is true for most but Josi is a different case.

First off he plays a style that should not have him break down similar to some more physical player do.

He plays defense which tends to see players continue to play at higher levels until later in their careers.

By the time year 4 or 5 hits the cap will be high enough that 9M should seem like a very palatable number not to mention that the team is not yet in a cap crunch and has a core signed long term for the most part
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29 oct à 13 h 16
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Lmao. Awesome.
Nash: OK let's work something out
Josi: cool, I want to be a top 3 paid dman
Nash: woah we can't just hand over 10m plus contracts...
Josi: look just give me more than that pylon Subban
Nash: oh... Phew! Yeah no problem
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29 oct à 13 h 27
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Easily could have gotten 10.5/11 AAV anywhere else.
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29 oct à 13 h 30
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It may not be pretty, but it was inevitable Josi was getting a deal like this, with that being said, I think it’s fair to call John Carlsons contract a steal and Erik Karlssons to be awful
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29 oct à 13 h 30
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It may not be pretty, but it was inevitable Josi was getting a deal like this, with that being said, I think it’s fair to call John Carlsons contract a steal and Erik Karlssons to be awful
29 oct à 13 h 31
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Yeah the 8 years is tough, but your other options were:

A) Sign him to 6-7 years for an outrageous caphit. Likely 11+
or
B) Let him walk

Had to be done. First half of the deal will be fine, second half could be rough
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29 oct à 13 h 31
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Good deal.
29 oct à 13 h 35
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1972
Great signing. Some have posted that serious declines for players happen in their late 20s early 30s which is true for most but Josi is a different case.

First off he plays a style that should not have him break down similar to some more physical player do.

He plays defense which tends to see players continue to play at higher levels until later in their careers.


I mean, you say that...
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29 oct à 13 h 38
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
It may not be pretty, but it was inevitable Josi was getting a deal like this, with that being said, I think it’s fair to call John Carlsons contract a steal and Erik Karlssons to be awful


Carlson, Karlsson and Josi all suffer from the same issue. All the deals are bad thanks to the term for the same reasons. Pay a guy until he is 30-32 (either 8 year deal right off or two mid terms or a bridge and a long term deal) and let him go after if he wont take a cut.

Handy rule of thumb is that 30 is the new 33.
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29 oct à 13 h 40
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Quoting: Random2152
A players peak years END at 26-27 y/o.
A player goes into serious decline around 30.
Josi will be 30 when this 8 year 9.059 contract STARTS.
He is a fantastic dman, of that there is no doubt but expecting him to be worth it past the first couple years is ludicrous. This is a bad deal through and through.


A players peak does not end at 27 lmao, a players prime is over at 30 to 31ish, usually average players start declining then, with obvious exceptions (suter, giordano). The aav isnt bad, but i agree the length is a bit much.
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29 oct à 13 h 41
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29 oct à 13 h 41
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Quoting: JohnMeston
A players peak does not end at 27 lmao, a players prime is over at 30 to 31ish, usually average players start declining then, with obvious exceptions (suter, giordano). The aav isnt bad, but i agree the length is a bit much.


You need to keep up with the research bud
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29 oct à 13 h 42
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Quoting: Random2152
A players peak years END at 26-27 y/o.
A player goes into serious decline around 30.
Josi will be 30 when this 8 year 9.059 contract STARTS.
He is a fantastic dman, of that there is no doubt but expecting him to be worth it past the first couple years is ludicrous. This is a bad deal through and through.


I wouldn't say a players peak years end at 26-27....
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29 oct à 13 h 44
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Quoting: Random2152
You need to keep up with the research bud
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Some random graphs lmao that means literally nothing bud
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