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Leafs - Ducks Manson

Créé par: RTommy
Date de création initiale: oct 12, 2019
Publié: Oct 12 at 11:47 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. Jones, Max
ANA
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Bracco, Jeremy
  4. Ceci, Cody
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 210 199 $0 $0 $1 289 801 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
ANA
Jones, Max
863 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
ANA
Manson, Josh
4 100 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Shore, Nick
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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12 oct à 12 h 06
#1
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 1,788
Mentions "j'aime": 528
I'm not that high on Bracco, reminds me of Sprong a bit, I'll take him as payment for taking Ceci, then you're giving up a good young middle 6 F and a now overrated d spec Lilja for a legit top pairing Rd from a team that needs RD (making his value to them even higher) on a great contract and who is currently 3-1... Will they stay that way... Probably not, but I think they could be competitive this year, making Manson even less likely to be traded, and he's young enough that even if they decide to rebuild he'll still be on his prime by the time they come out of it
OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.
12 oct à 12 h 15
#2
Rejoint: jui 2018
Messages: 605
Mentions "j'aime": 122
So obvs the Leafs would love this but the Ducks say no.

They need a strong RHD and thats what Manson is for them. The pieces coming back arent bad but the value isnt there

Manson > Lil and Kap
Jones = Bracco and Ceci
Jones
OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.
12 oct à 12 h 39
#3
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,837
Mentions "j'aime": 2,882
Manson was not at all good last season and wasn't really on anyones radar the season before and now he's an all-star worth a kings ransom. This is a short sighted trade and one that doesn't make much sense for TO.
leaflet a aimé ceci.
12 oct à 13 h 10
#4
Rejoint: aoû 2019
Messages: 86
Mentions "j'aime": 9
I do this trade but I don't think the Ducks would. Anyways nothing matters until Babcock's fired
12 oct à 13 h 45
#5
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 1,681
Mentions "j'aime": 629
Quoting: LoganOllivier
Manson was not at all good last season and wasn't really on anyones radar the season before and now he's an all-star worth a kings ransom. This is a short sighted trade and one that doesn't make much sense for TO.


Were talking about the same Manson here right? The one that was +34 2 years ago and isnt rven a points producing Dman. Just because he wasnt taken in tour fantasy league doesnt mean he isnt a top pairing partner defense. Also what "kings ransom" are you refering to?
OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.
12 oct à 15 h 17
#6
First NY Then LA
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 6,937
Mentions "j'aime": 2,833
Anaheim and Toronto suffer from the same defect: softness at RD. Here's who the Ducks have on the right side:

Josh Manson
Cam Fowler (playing on his off side)
Brendan Guhle (playing on his off side)
Michael Del Zotto (playing on his off side)
Korbinian Holzer (whom Toronto themselves deemed expendable years ago)

Whatever your opinion of his ability is, Manson is the sole NHL-quality right-handed defenseman Anaheim has, and there's no one in the system (unlike Toronto, who have at least four such prospects). Moreover, again, whatever your opinion of his quality is, Manson is better than Ceci is now and Liljegren is ever likely to be. And Anaheim has a wealth of young wingers, so the Ducks don't need Kapanen or Bracco, particularly since Jones may turn out to be better than Bracco.

In short, this is a quick No from Anaheim.
12 oct à 15 h 44
#7
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,837
Mentions "j'aime": 2,882
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Were talking about the same Manson here right? The one that was +34 2 years ago and isnt rven a points producing Dman. Just because he wasnt taken in tour fantasy league doesnt mean he isnt a top pairing partner defense. Also what "kings ransom" are you refering to?


Oh yeah that one season where he did good playing with a superior partner and now he's a legit #1. Nope he is just another overblown good player. He's good but he has really 1 season to throw back too and it was 2 seasons ago.
12 oct à 21 h 46
#8
Go Wings Go
Rejoint: jun 2016
Messages: 16,134
Mentions "j'aime": 1,778
Too bad Manson isn't available, And those pieces don't get him any ways. Start with Nylander at least.
 
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