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Habs fans- what do you think of a Joulevi deal

Créé par: GMmaster13
Date de création initiale: oct 1, 2019
Publié: Oct 1 at 6:05 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Hey Canadiens fans what do you think of a Joulevi for Juulsen swap with pieces added. Montreal can use a good LHD prospect while Vancouver can use a RHD prospect who also happens to be a local. Montreal would have to add slightly more as Juulsen is currently injured and older than Joulevi who was also a higher pick.
Transactions
VAN
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. 2020 3e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Juolevi, Olli
Rachats de contrats
  • Ryan Spooner: 1 033 333 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 033 206 $
Enfoui
  • Sven Baertschi: 2 291 666 $ (3 366 666 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
VAN
VAN
MTL
VAN
VAN
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $82 196 539 $0 $4 725 000 $-696 539 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
VAN
Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
1 250 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
VAN
Sutter, Brandon
4 375 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Motte, Tyler
975 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 1
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
3 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Beagle, Jay
3 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Leivo, Josh
1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
VAN
Schaller, Tim
1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
916 667 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
VAN
Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
VAN
Markström, Jacob
3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
VAN
Benn, Jordie
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
4 450 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 2
VAN
Hughes, Quintin
916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2
VAN
Stecher, Troy
2 325 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
VAN
Fantenberg, Oscar
850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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1 oct à 18 h 09
#1
Rejoint: sep 2018
Messages: 831
Mentions "j'aime": 299
Dont give up on juolevi. At least let him play a full season and then judge him.
1 oct à 18 h 16
#2
Habs
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 692
Mentions "j'aime": 96
um i don't think habs are going to give up a 3rd
1 oct à 18 h 18
#3
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 759
Mentions "j'aime": 102
Quoting: Goldninja0
um i don't think habs are going to give up a 3rd


All right. Then i guess they would be fine giving up a firstwink
1 oct à 18 h 18
#4
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 489
Mentions "j'aime": 132
Juolevi has more value than Juulsen considering is not related to his eyes.
1 oct à 18 h 18
#5
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 759
Mentions "j'aime": 102
Quoting: GMmaster13
All right. Then i guess they would be fine giving up a first wink

Or perhaps 2 firsts
2 oct à 0 h 19
#6
Jay27
Rejoint: fév 2019
Messages: 835
Mentions "j'aime": 395
Honestly, I don't think Vancouver is getting fair value.
2 oct à 0 h 53
#7
Petey4Calder
Rejoint: jan 2018
Messages: 320
Mentions "j'aime": 54
This does not make a whole lot of sense. Both are at their lowest values ever because of injuries but I believe Juolevi has much more potential. Before he was injured he had 13 point in 18 games in the ahl and looked really good. Juulsen may have the upperhand with nhl experience but im not ready to give up on juolevi.
2 oct à 5 h 20
#8
Rejoint: jan 2018
Messages: 279
Mentions "j'aime": 103
I doubt MTL would add to Juulsen to get Juolevi at this point. Juolevi has had his own troubles with injury, he just happens to be healthy right now while Juulsen has had a run of bad luck. Draft position matters more to fans than it should, especially when discussing players in their 20's. Look at Puljujarvi, who was drafted ahead of Juolevi, has put up 3rd liner numbers offensively at the NHL level and is considered a bust by a lot of people on this site (although that might be a response to some EDM fans wanting significantly more than 3rd liner who might have upside value in trade proposals). The age difference is a factor due to how young they are, but having NHL experience mitigates that quite a bit my mind given the difference is only a touch over a year, plus RHD are more rare at the NHL level.
In terms of potential, I would probably say Juolevi has the higher ceiling although it's hard to judge considering they have only 2 comparable seasons in the same league (CHL), draft year and draft year +1 and even then it's difficult because OHL vs WHL.
2 oct à 6 h 23
#9
Rejoint: jan 2017
Messages: 546
Mentions "j'aime": 208
Montreal would have to add slightly more as Juulsen is currently injured


Bold statement while talking about Juolevi...
 
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