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Jets

Créé par: Amd
Date de création initiale: sep 18, 2019
Publié: Sep 18 at 11:22 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
Well if Buff retires...there are worse things to do than kick tires on Laine.
FWIW if JR had an opportunity to get Laine and passed it up because he was too stubborn to bury JJ...fire him immediately.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Laine, Patrik38 250 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Phaneuf, Dion1700 000 $
Transactions
PIT
  1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2020 2e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Schultz, Justin
  3. 2020 1e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Faulk, Justin
CAR
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Jarry, Tristan
Enfoui
  • Jack Johnson: 2 175 000 $ (3 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
WPG
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $78 506 625 $132 500 $2 850 000 $2 993 375 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Laine, Patrik
8 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
CAR
Faulk, Justin
4 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Phaneuf, Dion
700 000 $
DG
UFA
PIT
Gudbranson, Erik
4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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19 sep à 0 h 19
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this makes the team worse.
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19 sep à 0 h 22
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Chicago
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Jets decline, they aren't moving Laine to get older, they would want young, quality players back under 25 years old.
19 sep à 2 h 57
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mhockey91
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Quoting: NickC1988
Jets decline, they aren't moving Laine to get older, they would want young, quality players back under 25 years old.


Jets don’t just decline. Cheveldayoff blocks Rutherford’s number. Horrible horrible horrible trade for Winnipeg
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19 sep à 2 h 57
#4
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
this makes the team worse.


... you’re joking right
19 sep à 8 h 56
#5
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Not enough for Laine and too much for Faulk.
19 sep à 9 h 24
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Phaneuf.... hahahahaha and you want to complain about JJ being bad..... This isn't NHL 13. Might want to buy a new copy.
19 sep à 10 h 10
#7
Jeuck75
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The pens Defense is so bad it's not even funny. These trades improved it a little bit but not much. Go talk to the Predators about how to male a real defensive core.
19 sep à 13 h 13
#8
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Quoting: mhockey91
... you’re joking right


way to completely kill the defense here.
Trading Schultz out is not the right more.
On top of it, Laine will never work with Malkin. He doesn't play defense and you have the same mess you had with Kessel there. On top of it, he'll just **** he's not on the 1st line.
19 sep à 14 h 01
#9
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
way to completely kill the defense here.
Trading Schultz out is not the right more.
On top of it, Laine will never work with Malkin. He doesn't play defense and you have the same mess you had with Kessel there. On top of it, he'll just **** he's not on the 1st line.


Schultz for Faulk is pretty lateral. I’d prefer galchenyuk over Faulk but if we somehow landed Laine I’d be all over it. Laine would score 50 with Malkin. Kessel and malkin worked best together when a speedy defensive winger played with them. (Hagalin). I guess tanev can fill that role. Laine didn’t complain about Being 2nd line. He complained about linemates which is fair. Playing with Bryan little isn’t exactly the same as playing with Malkin
19 sep à 14 h 34
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Insta zrxstrictxd_29
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Quoting: mhockey91
Schultz for Faulk is pretty lateral. I’d prefer galchenyuk over Faulk but if we somehow landed Laine I’d be all over it. Laine would score 50 with Malkin. Kessel and malkin worked best together when a speedy defensive winger played with them. (Hagalin). I guess tanev can fill that role. Laine didn’t complain about Being 2nd line. He complained about linemates which is fair. Playing with Bryan little isn’t exactly the same as playing with Malkin


mhockey91 I missed you my friend the last Time I talked to you was December of 2018
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19 sep à 14 h 39
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Quoting: mhockey91
Schultz for Faulk is pretty lateral. I’d prefer galchenyuk over Faulk but if we somehow landed Laine I’d be all over it. Laine would score 50 with Malkin. Kessel and malkin worked best together when a speedy defensive winger played with them. (Hagalin). I guess tanev can fill that role. Laine didn’t complain about Being 2nd line. He complained about linemates which is fair. Playing with Bryan little isn’t exactly the same as playing with Malkin


Malkin worked best when a defense man was capable of moving the puck up the ice instead of having a messed up 2nd pairing all year.
This does not help the 2nd pairing at all, it makes it worse.
It does not help that Malkin, who does not want to go back to chase pucks, is tied together with wingers who don't want to do a damn thing on defense.
This does not improve the team. It does indeed make it worse.
20 sep à 5 h 50
#12
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
Malkin worked best when a defense man was capable of moving the puck up the ice instead of having a messed up 2nd pairing all year.
This does not help the 2nd pairing at all, it makes it worse.
It does not help that Malkin, who does not want to go back to chase pucks, is tied together with wingers who don't want to do a damn thing on defense.
This does not improve the team. It does indeed make it worse.


Lmao so you’re saying adding Laine makes this team worse. That’s funny.
20 sep à 10 h 43
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Quoting: mhockey91
Lmao so you’re saying adding Laine makes this team worse. That’s funny.


It's not like you are moving Galchenyuk and Jugs for him.
You are moving out their 2nd best puck mover and replacing him with someone who does not have that kind of ability.
It's like you live in fantasy land where you think not being able to move the puck up ice to Malkin is going to work. We already know it doesn't and leads to nothing but problems.
20 sep à 12 h 19
#14
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
It's not like you are moving Galchenyuk and Jugs for him.
You are moving out their 2nd best puck mover and replacing him with someone who does not have that kind of ability.
It's like you live in fantasy land where you think not being able to move the puck up ice to Malkin is going to work. We already know it doesn't and leads to nothing but problems.


Once again... Faulk and Schultz is a lateral move. At least Faulk is healthier. Faulk will be able to move the puck just as effectively as Schultz. Faulk and Laine >>>>> Schultz; galchenyuk, Jugs. This is a dumb argument because this trade will Never happen
20 sep à 12 h 24
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Quoting: mhockey91
Once again... Faulk and Schultz is a lateral move. At least Faulk is healthier. Faulk will be able to move the puck just as effectively as Schultz. Faulk and Laine >>>>> Schultz; galchenyuk, Jugs. This is a dumb argument because this trade will Never happen


Faulk is not a lateral move. Schultz is a guy who can move the puck, put up 50 points.
You also can't fault Schultz for breaking his leg blocking a shot. I mean come on.
On top of it, he's much better in his own end. Which is saying a lot considering he's not great there. But at least he's not finishing -20 every year.
20 sep à 14 h 51
#16
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
Faulk is not a lateral move. Schultz is a guy who can move the puck, put up 50 points.
You also can't fault Schultz for breaking his leg blocking a shot. I mean come on.
On top of it, he's much better in his own end. Which is saying a lot considering he's not great there. But at least he's not finishing -20 every year.


Oh wow!!! You bring up the +/- argument lol. Look at Schultz +/- in Edmonton. Faulk has been on a bad Carolina team for pretty much his career. Schultz put up 50 points once, whereas Faulk has posted 30+ points every year since 2013 (and one campaign of 49 points). They are comparable players. Both offensive top 4 right handed puck moving D. I’d probably take a healthy Schultz Over Faulk, but that’s not the point. What I’m saying is Faulk vs Schultz isn’t THAT big of a difference where ass Jugs / galchenyuk vs Laine is HUGE
20 sep à 22 h 31
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Quoting: mhockey91
Oh wow!!! You bring up the +/- argument lol. Look at Schultz +/- in Edmonton. Faulk has been on a bad Carolina team for pretty much his career. Schultz put up 50 points once, whereas Faulk has posted 30+ points every year since 2013 (and one campaign of 49 points). They are comparable players. Both offensive top 4 right handed puck moving D. I’d probably take a healthy Schultz Over Faulk, but that’s not the point. What I’m saying is Faulk vs Schultz isn’t THAT big of a difference where ass Jugs / galchenyuk vs Laine is HUGE


you can say the same thing about Laine and AG. what good team has AG been on? Not that I care for either play since they don't play defense. But at least AG will play some defense. Laine don't play any. That's why he can't even get 1st line time on his own team.

As far as good teams, carolina has had good teams over the years that have under performed. 15-16 16-17. Both years the only reason they didn't make the playoffs is because they couldn't close out tight games. On pure wins and loses they actually had more wins! So it's not like he's been on horrible teams. That's just not true.
21 sep à 12 h 17
#18
mhockey91
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Quoting: pharrow
you can say the same thing about Laine and AG. what good team has AG been on? Not that I care for either play since they don't play defense. But at least AG will play some defense. Laine don't play any. That's why he can't even get 1st line time on his own team.

As far as good teams, carolina has had good teams over the years that have under performed. 15-16 16-17. Both years the only reason they didn't make the playoffs is because they couldn't close out tight games. On pure wins and loses they actually had more wins! So it's not like he's been on horrible teams. That's just not true.


The biggest knock on galchenyuk is his defence lol. Both Laine and him aren’t defensive forwards obviously but I’ll gladly take 45 goal Laine over 30 goal galchenyuk
 
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