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Cap Dumps with Rivals

Créé par: Ccc
Date de création initiale: aoû 23, 2019
Publié: Aug 23 at 11:51 am
Équipe: 2019-20 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Explications
Youth movement in scratches



Boston: moves Backes cap and gets AA a vet with experience who’s cheap with the retention and can help with a cup run

Anisimov+2nd for JFK
Backes to Ottawa with first as incentive plus retention on AA


Montreal: for a add of depth to make this team very strong and help compete with the strong east. I could be wrong but Ottawa fans may say Ottawa loses this trade, so if things need to be added LMK/ if I’m way off

JY + part of Firsts value for JGP with retention + Tierney
Alzner to Ottawa with part of first as incentive + allure of acquiring JY
Transactions
OTT
  1. Backes, David
  2. Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Anisimov, Artem (2 275 000 $ retained)
  2. 2021 2e round pick (SJS)
OTT
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Ylönen, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel (1 550 000 $ retained)
  2. Tierney, Chris
  3. 2020 5e round pick (TBL)
OTT
    Trade up to a high second round pick hopefully with anyone they can
    TBL
    1. 2020 2e round pick (CBJ)
    2. 2020 2e round pick (DAL)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Dion Phaneuf: 729 167 $
    • Alexandre Burrows: 0 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Artem Anisimov: 2 275 000 $ (50%)
    • Jean-Gabriel Pageau: 1 550 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    OTT
    SJS
    BOS
    MTL
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    SJS
    STL
    OTT
    2021
    OTT
    OTT
    CBJ
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    2022
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    OTT
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    3481 500 000 $71 113 331 $0 $6 555 000 $10 386 669 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    OTT
    Tkachuk, Brady
    925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Brown, Logan
    863 333 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    White, Colin
    4 750 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 6
    OTT
    Brown, Connor
    2 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    BOS
    Backes, David
    6 000 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob
    2 000 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA
    OTT
    Duclair, Anthony
    1 650 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Ennis, Tyler
    800 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Ryan, Bobby
    7 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
    OTT
    Boedker, Mikkel
    4 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    OTT
    Chabot, Thomas
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Zaitsev, Nikita
    4 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    OTT
    Anderson, Craig
    4 750 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Wolanin, Christian
    900 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    DeMelo, Dylan
    900 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Nilsson, Anders
    2 600 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    OTT
    Borowiecki, Mark
    1 200 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Hainsey, Ron
    3 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Alzner, Karl
    4 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    OTT
    Jaros, Christian
    755 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Gáborík, Marián
    4 875 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    OTT
    Batherson, Drake
    736 666 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Callahan, Ryan
    5 800 000 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Formenton, Alex
    747 500 $
    AG
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    MacArthur, Clarke
    4 650 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Balcers, Rūdolfs
    759 167 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    OTT
    Veronneau, Max
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Ylönen, Jesse
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    OTT
    Norris, Joshua
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    Abramov, Vitaly
    730 833 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Davidsson, Jonathan
    768 333 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Brännström, Erik
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    Bernard-Docker, Jacob
    925 000 $
    D
    RFA
    OTT
    Thomson, Lassi
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 3
    OTT
    Lajoie, Maxime
    710 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    OTT
    Søgaard, Mads
    925 000 $
    G
    RFA
    OTT
    Gustavsson, Filip
    761 666 $
    G
    RFA - 2

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    23 aoû à 11h53
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    Maybe it is because I don't know the habs prospects very well, but that seems like a sweet deal for the Habs
    23 aoû à 11h55
    #2
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    Quoting: Random2152
    Maybe it is because I don't know the habs prospects very well, but that seems like a sweet deal for the Habs


    He’s fast, very fast and a good play maker but still very young. I’m not too knowledgeable on him but that’s what I know and heard he’s a higher end habs prospect that’s why I’m not sure if Ottawa likes it more or habs like it more
    23 aoû à 12h11
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    Quoting: Ccc
    He’s fast, very fast and a good play maker but still very young. I’m not too knowledgeable on him but that’s what I know and heard he’s a higher end habs prospect that’s why I’m not sure if Ottawa likes it more or habs like it more


    It may only be my opinion but :

    1- Habs don't need Pageau nor Tierney
    2- Ylonen is a very high valued prospect and will probably be better than JGP
    3- Habs do not need to get rid of Alzner's contract
    4- 2020 draft is in MTL so habs won'T get rid of this 1st expect for an under payment which is not the case here
    23 aoû à 12h27
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    Quoting: KCarry74
    It may only be my opinion but :

    1- Habs don't need Pageau nor Tierney
    2- Ylonen is a very high valued prospect and will probably be better than JGP
    3- Habs do not need to get rid of Alzner's contract
    4- 2020 draft is in MTL so habs won'T get rid of this 1st expect for an under payment which is not the case here


    Now maybe I’m wrong but this was my thought:

    MTL could definitely use JGP and tierney if they want to make the playoffs now lines would be:

    Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
    ^ the usual line nothing changes

    Domi - Kotkaniemi - Drouin
    ^ this is the real top line, I think JK earns the shot the at 2C and gets 2 talent wingers (something Mcdavid dreams of)

    Lehkonen - Tierney - JGP/Armia
    ^ this makes MTL an incredibly deep team, you have a defensively reliable 3rd line who can be strong in both ends

    Byron - Poehling/ whoever ain’t playing 3rd - Weal

    Now you have an a team deep enough to keep with he likes of Florida I’d think, than it comes down to D and Price van Bob
    23 aoû à 13h52
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    Quoting: KCarry74
    It may only be my opinion but :

    1- Habs don't need Pageau nor Tierney
    2- Ylonen is a very high valued prospect and will probably be better than JGP
    3- Habs do not need to get rid of Alzner's contract
    4- 2020 draft is in MTL so habs won'T get rid of this 1st expect for an under payment which is not the case here


    Spot on!
    Habs already have plenty of players to fill mid-6 lineup;
    Ylonen is a keeper for now, until they can figure out what he can do on a small ice;
    Alzner's contract becomes an ASSET next year with a B/O cost of $833,333 over 4 years, but expensive cap hit = worth gold for bottom-feeders;
    The NHL draft is in Mtl and the pressure will be on MB to have a good draft. Don't see him giving away a pick like that...
    23 aoû à 14h36
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    JFK is playing in Sweden. Also, I don't htink Sweeney will give another 1st
    23 aoû à 14h46
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    Quoting: Ccc
    Now maybe I’m wrong but this was my thought:

    MTL could definitely use JGP and tierney if they want to make the playoffs now lines would be:

    Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
    ^ the usual line nothing changes

    Domi - Kotkaniemi - Drouin
    ^ this is the real top line, I think JK earns the shot the at 2C and gets 2 talent wingers (something Mcdavid dreams of)

    Lehkonen - Tierney - JGP/Armia
    ^ this makes MTL an incredibly deep team, you have a defensively reliable 3rd line who can be strong in both ends

    Byron - Poehling/ whoever ain’t playing 3rd - Weal

    Now you have an a team deep enough to keep with he likes of Florida I’d think, than it comes down to D and Price van Bob


    See, I have to disagree here. What you are trying to do is right in a circumstances where habs dont have any prospect coming down. The point is habs have : Suzuki, Caufield, Poehling, Ylonen, Ikonen who will/could all be top 9 players within 2 years from now. It gives something like :

    Tatar - Danault - Gally
    Domi - Poehling/KK - Drouin
    Lehkonen - Poeling/KK - Armia
    Byron - Cousins - Weal

    for this current year. Next year it will be something like :

    Domi - KK/Poehling - Gally
    Drouin - KK/Poehling - Caufield
    Lehkonen - Danault/Ikonen - Suzuki
    Byron - Danault/Ikonen - Ylonen.

    You realize I left : Tatar, Armia out or this equation ? And that we have plenty of room left given Ylonen is on the 4th line... Also, we would have assets back for Tatar and Armia.... We dont need to pay a 1st and a A- B+ prospect for expendable assets who wont play next year
    23 aoû à 16h45
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    Modifié 23 aoû à 16h51
    Quoting: KCarry74
    See, I have to disagree here. What you are trying to do is right in a circumstances where habs dont have any prospect coming down. The point is habs have : Suzuki, Caufield, Poehling, Ylonen, Ikonen who will/could all be top 9 players within 2 years from now. It gives something like :

    Tatar - Danault - Gally
    Domi - Poehling/KK - Drouin
    Lehkonen - Poeling/KK - Armia
    Byron - Cousins - Weal

    for this current year. Next year it will be something like :

    Domi - KK/Poehling - Gally
    Drouin - KK/Poehling - Caufield
    Lehkonen - Danault/Ikonen - Suzuki
    Byron - Danault/Ikonen - Ylonen.

    You realize I left : Tatar, Armia out or this equation ? And that we have plenty of room left given Ylonen is on the 4th line... Also, we would have assets back for Tatar and Armia.... We dont need to pay a 1st and a A- B+ prospect for expendable assets who wont play next year


    But Poehling although he was amazing to watch in that final game lmao; it was fun and I hate the habs. I think he won’t see 2nd line time unless something drastic happens. I’m not dissing the habs in any of my comments I just see yes maybe the 2020 pick can change to 2021 or 2 2nds or whatever as personally I liked Ottawa getting JY more than pick itself, but the habs/ and any other team can certainly always use depth. Tierney did well with 2nd line time (Probably saw some first cause Ottawa is a dumpster fire) and JGP can do 1/2 line time (although his latest injury is a scare). This transition can help Poehling easily come into the show. Additionally, to be frank Tampa, Boston, Leafs, Washington, Pittsburgh are a “lock” for the playoffs.

    That leaves 3 spots, technically 2 as 1 goes to 3rd metro. So 2 spots all being battled for by:

    New Jersey
    Islanders
    Florida
    Philadelphia
    Carolina
    Buffalo
    Florida
    Montreal

    That’s 7 (8 really but 1 goes to Metro 3rd) teams for 2 spots. Now personally I would bet Florida is almost 90% locked. Now we got 6 teams for 1 (but personally I’d scratch Buffalo and Islanders[RIP Lehner]) so that makes 4. MTL PHI CAR NJD, that’s 4 teams that all deserve a playoff spot by the looks of it. We’ve seen it every year almost, anything can happen once you’re in the playoffs. Price deserves to get playoff hockey and I think JGP but more so Tierney really help this roster round out. Plus Tierney is an RFA so you guys get control to a degree on how that contract is (kept or moved). I know Montreal got rookies but Suzuki imo can cook for a year but Poehling 100% as it seems currently is gonna play atleast 2/3 or 3/4 of the season, just think with these additions if it was the current trade but instead of the 2020 first it was a 2021 first or 2020 2nd 2021 2nd and maybe like a 2020 4th habs would do very well
     
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