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Gardiner with keeping Schultz

Créé par: Mr_Gardoki
Date de création initiale: jui 21, 2019
Publié: Jul 21 at 6:52 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
Another play on the Hockeybuzz rumor.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Gardiner, Jake65 000 000 $
Transactions
PIT
  1. 2020 3e round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnson, Jack
  3. 2020 4e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Dillon, Brenden (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. 2021 4e round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Pettersson, Marcus [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rust, Bryan
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2020
PIT
PIT
ANA
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
SJS
PIT
PIT
PIT
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 377 500 $132 500 $2 850 000 $122 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
4 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
4 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Johnson, Adam
700 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
DiPauli, Thomas
700 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Gardiner, Jake
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA
PIT
Schultz, Justin
5 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
SJS
Dillon, Brenden
1 770 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
PIT
Gudbranson, Erik
4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
850 000 $
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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21 jui à 18h53
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ZAR doesn’t worth a 3rd round pick. ZAR + JJ + 1st vs 4th round pick is more realistic
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21 jui à 18h54
#2
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Quoting: Poehling
ZAR doesn’t worth a 3rd round pick. ZAR + JJ + 1st vs 4th round pick is more realistic


Not completely opposed.
21 jui à 18h57
#3
LEAFSandBRUINSfan
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Awful d and awful gardiner contract
21 jui à 18h59
#4
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Awful d and awful gardiner contract


Awful D? Dillon is a very solid 3rd pairing dman. Gardiner/Schultz would be an incredible second pair. Also, as we spoke about in the previous thread, I'm just doing off the rumor I read to see what this would look like. The only way the Pens could actually get Gardiner is by offering term.
21 jui à 19h08
#5
Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Awful D? Dillon is a very solid 3rd pairing dman. Gardiner/Schultz would be an incredible second pair. Also, as we spoke about in the previous thread, I'm just doing off the rumor I read to see what this would look like. The only way the Pens could actually get Gardiner is by offering term.


Shultz and gard are very average in their own zone......
21 jui à 19h09
#6
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Shultz and gard are very average in their own zone......


Gardiner is much better in his own zone than he gets credit for, but he's far from a defensive stalwart. That being said, having two dmen like them on the same pair will be about driving play and transition. Something they're both very good at.
21 jui à 19h11
#7
LEAFSandBRUINSfan
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Awful D? Dillon is a very solid 3rd pairing dman. Gardiner/Schultz would be an incredible second pair. Also, as we spoke about in the previous thread, I'm just doing off the rumor I read to see what this would look like. The only way the Pens could actually get Gardiner is by offering term.


Quoting: Capitalfail67
Shultz and gard are very average in their own zone......


I’ve wqtched gards for 8 years and trust me he can skate like the wind and create offensively but can’t defend in the corners. In front of the net or make a easy breakout pass. I think those two players are so similar and it’s a recipe for disaster
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21 jui à 19h35
#8
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
I’ve wqtched gards for 8 years and trust me he can skate like the wind and create offensively but can’t defend in the corners. In front of the net or make a easy breakout pass. I think those two players are so similar and it’s a recipe for disaster


I didn't feel like cutting and pasting, but if you look at some advanced stats I think you'd be pretty shocked how good Gardiner actually is defensively. This is one I like to use:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ryan.stimson#!/vizhome/PlayerPassing/ComparisonDashboard

and this one

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard

Gardiner's defensive stats are pretty impressive.
21 jui à 19h41
#9
LEAFSandBRUINSfan
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I didn't feel like cutting and pasting, but if you look at some advanced stats I think you'd be pretty shocked how good Gardiner actually is defensively. This is one I like to use:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ryan.stimson#!/vizhome/PlayerPassing/ComparisonDashboard

and this one

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard

Gardiner's defensive stats are pretty impressive.


Sign him then if u believe these stats so much😂😂 doesn’t change the fact you can see how bad he is. You have him 3 weeks and you’ll be complaining
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21 jui à 19h43
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Sign him then if u believe these stats so much😂😂 doesn’t change the fact you can see how bad he is. You have him 3 weeks and you’ll be complaining


My apprehension is obviously the injury, but if he's fine I'd be totally happy. It's not as if I've never watched him play.
21 jui à 19h51
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Quoting: Poehling
ZAR doesn’t worth a 3rd round pick. ZAR + JJ + 1st vs 4th round pick is more realistic


Yeah, no way ANA touches JJ without a significant incentive.
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21 jui à 20h17
#12
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Sign him then if u believe these stats so much😂😂 doesn’t change the fact you can see how bad he is. You have him 3 weeks and you’ll be complaining


JJ wasn’t as bad as his numbers showed either last year. Penguins are trying to miss the playoffs
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21 jui à 20h28
#13
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
JJ wasn’t as bad as his numbers showed either last year. Penguins are trying to miss the playoffs


Heard gubranson was nominated for the Norris
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21 jui à 21h03
#14
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Heard gubranson was nominated for the Norris


He tackled Tom Wilson once ha dudes a great defenseman
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