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(EDM/CGY) - Lucic (12.5% retained) & conditional 2020 3rd for Neal

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19 jui à 21h04
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Trade confirmed: Calgary Flames - Edmonton Oilers
Détails de la transaction
Les Flames de Calgary font l’acquisition de:
Flames de Calgary
Milan Lucic (750 000 $ retenus - 12,5%)
Choix conditionnel de 3e ronde en 2020* (EDM)
*Conditions: Le choix est transféré si James Neal marque 21 buts et que Milan Lucic marque 10 buts ou moins que Neal durant la saison 2019-20.
19 jui à 21h05
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@Banks @Jarvis any information on the conditions?
19 jui à 21h08
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
@Banks @Jarvis any information on the conditions?


If Neal scores 21 goals, AND Lucic scores 10 less, Calgary receives the pick
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19 jui à 21h09
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Edmonton moves the worst contract in the league. For me it's a win for them
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19 jui à 21h12
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I thought CGY is Stanley contender......

Second trade here on CapFriendly in a row that should be forgotten as soon as possible,....
19 jui à 21h12
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What a horrible trade for Calgary
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19 jui à 21h13
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I think Neal has a better chance of bouncing back, at least to the 20 goal range.
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19 jui à 21h19
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19 jui à 21h23
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Quoting: toque
If Neal scores 21 goals, AND Lucic scores 10 less, Calgary receives the pick


So if Neal has a bounce back year, and lucic doesn't,pick is extanged
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19 jui à 21h29
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I don't hate this for Calgary as much as many others here. A bunch of the stats nerds are divided on the players themselves but many see Lucic as the one more likely to bounce back. Add in the possible pick and the fact that he is cheaper and who knows.

On the flipside if McDavid can make Neal a player then lookout.
Overall it's not an awful trade by any stretch of the imagination
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19 jui à 21h35
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Quoting: Random2152
I don't hate this for Calgary as much as many others here. A bunch of the stats nerds are divided on the players themselves but many see Lucic as the one more likely to bounce back. Add in the possible pick and the fact that he is cheaper and who knows.

On the flipside if McDavid can make Neal a player then lookout.
Overall it's not an awful trade by any stretch of the imagination


If luchic can't have a good year on the wing of Jesus, he won't have a good year on Petersons line
19 jui à 21h35
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
If luchic can't have a good year on the wing of Jesus, he won't have a good year on Petersons line


Idk I'm stupid
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19 jui à 21h46
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Quoting: Laudan
I thought CGY is Stanley contender......

Second trade here on CapFriendly in a row that should be forgotten as soon as possible,....


Calgary needed to get rid of Neal and shed some salary. What makes this deal a loss is that it seems lucic still has his nmc intact and needs to be protected.... very bad for the upcoming expansion draft.
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19 jui à 21h49
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CGY won't make the playoffs next season. They've not improved in any facet of the game this summer and several of their divisional opponents have improved. They also way overachieved last year as everyone had career seasons. That won't happen again. I don't understand for one second why they made this trade. Neal had a terrible season but could certainly bounce back next season, especially while playing on McDavid's and/or Draisaitl's line and PP. He scored 20+ goals in 9 straight seasons until last year. Lucic has been on a drastic downward spiral since arriving in EDM, scoring a pathetic 6 goals last year. He's basically worthless at this point. EDM wins this trade by a mile and then some.
19 jui à 21h51
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Quoting: Danny272
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Lucic isn't providing protection for Gaudreau. That's never gonna happen. Lucic is a 4th line player. They'll never be on the ice together. Never.
19 jui à 22h40
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Modifié 19 jui à 22h47
Quoting: toque
If Neal scores 21 goals, AND Lucic scores 10 less, Calgary receives the pick


You mean Calgary doesn't get the pick then?

Edit: Never mind, i forgot that Neal plays for Edmonton and Lucic for Calgary now lol.
19 jui à 22h44
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I am iffy on this trade.

Does saving 500k really worth this?
Neal much more likely to bounce back over Lucic should be a factor in the decision for this too.
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19 jui à 22h57
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accidental comment
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19 jui à 23h00
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Quoting: Brian2016
Lucic isn't providing protection for Gaudreau. That's never gonna happen. Lucic is a 4th line player. They'll never be on the ice together. Never.


Quoting: Danny272
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Help
19 jui à 23h08
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If Neal plays with McDavid he'll hit 30 + goals, pick him up in your NHL Fantasy Pool Draft.
19 jui à 23h12
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to be honest, more trades need convoluted conditional picks.

like you get a 7th if the player you traded has a relative corsi above like 5 or something.
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19 jui à 23h15
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Quoting: Brian2016
Lucic isn't providing protection for Gaudreau. That's never gonna happen. Lucic is a 4th line player. They'll never be on the ice together. Never.


When someone talks like that it's sarcasm
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19 jui à 23h17
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Quoting: Trickster
I am iffy on this trade.

Does saving 500k really worth this?
Neal much more likely to bounce back over Lucic should be a factor in the decision for this too.


Yeah I don't know what Treliving was thinking here.
Maybe protection for Gaudreau? But how much did he protect McDavid? Not much...as I remember it.
19 jui à 23h20
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Edmonton wins this HUGE! Unless there is something about Neal that we dont know (chronic injury, cancer in the room), getting rid of Lucic is a plus, and while Neal may never get 30 again- 20 is very doable, especially if he gets top 6 minutes.
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Quoting: Trickster
I am iffy on this trade.

Does saving 500k really worth this?
Neal much more likely to bounce back over Lucic should be a factor in the decision for this too.


This trade isn't nearly as bad for Calgary as everyone thinks/says it is. Everybody has to step back and look at the math.

Calgary and Edmonton are not New York or Los Angeles, or Toronto. Neal's contract was/is all salary, equally spread. Thus the Flames owed Neal $23 million over the next four years. In contrast, Lucic's contract was front-loaded and there was a $3 million signing bonus that Edmonton just paid, so Lucic is owed a total of $16 million by Calgary for the same period. Now subtract the retention ($3 million), and Calgary saves $10 million in real cash by this trade. Now $10 million to us sitting in the comfort of our armchairs at home may not seem important, but to the Calgary GM it means that he can offer a free agent next summer a $2.5 million signing bonus in every year on a four-year contract -- money he didn't have before, but which may mean the difference between being able to sign Matt Duchene or Artemi Panarin and being able to sign Ryan Dzingel. So although Edmonton may be the winner on the ice, Calgary is the winner at the bank.
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