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Gardiner - Read explanation

Créé par: rangersandislesfan
Date de création initiale: jui 6, 2019
Publié: Jul 6 at 5:04 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
I don't think Gardiner SHOULD get 6X6.5 ... however, it seems like that's probably what he's going to get. It's not a good contract in my opinion but he'll probably get it anyway.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Armia, Joel32 800 000 $
Hudon, Charles1800 000 $
Lehkonen, Artturi32 500 000 $
McCarron, Michael1917 831 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Gardiner, Jake66 500 000 $
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Enfoui
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 905 476 $0 $3 350 000 $594 524 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Gardiner, Jake
6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Peca, Matthew
1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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6 jui à 17h08
#1
Habs4life
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Not from Montreal he wont. I can't see anyone giving him that money or they would have.
Poehling a aimé ceci.
6 jui à 17h10
#2
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Anyway MTL dont need any defenseman anymore.
6 jui à 17h11
#3
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Kinkaid buried. Interesting.
6 jui à 17h24
#4
Rejoint: jan 2019
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Quoting: mr_z
Kinkaid buried. Interesting.


Done strictly so cap works with the Gardiner signing. Not because common sense is used. Montreal did not sign a back up goalie just to bury him. If by chance Montreal does still sign someone to a 6 mil contract, (not Gardiner) it won't be Kinkaid that will be moved somewhere for cap relief.
6 jui à 18h08
#5
BtZ's buttercup
Rejoint: mai 2018
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Kinkaid just signed and is buried before he even plays?
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6 jui à 18h35
#6
Go Wings Go
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According to reports, Jake Gardiner is seeking 7 years $50 million the Kevin Hayes deal. No way he's taking $39 million over 6 seasons.
6 jui à 19h09
#7
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 144
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Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary
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6 jui à 20h41
#8
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 239
Mentions "j'aime": 51
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
According to reports, Jake Gardiner is seeking 7 years $50 million the Kevin Hayes deal. No way he's taking $39 million over 6 seasons.


Quoting: Jberney1
Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary


I'd offer Gardiner a 2 - 3 yr 5.5 - 5.75 MAX. He's not worth 7per. He's finding that out the long hard way.
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6 jui à 22h29
#9
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rangersandislesfan
Rejoint: mar 2017
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Quoting: Jberney1
Teams are shying away for several reasons
1) he has shown to many defensive lapses the past couple of years
2) he missed time last year and played through the playoffs with a wonky back
3) his demands are to high!!! He can’t get more than myers money!!
4) not many “playoff contending” teams have the cap space, it’s been spent already!!!! He wants to play for a playoff contending team.

I think Gardnier will end up in a 1 or 2 year “show me and I’ll pay you” contract... and I’m thinking 4 million is going to be the salary


I completely agree those are reasons teams SHOULDN'T pay him 6.5X6 but it sounds like some teams are willing to pay him that. Maybe not though, idk.
6 jui à 22h31
#10
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rangersandislesfan
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Quoting: Trickster
Kinkaid just signed and is buried before he even plays?


Quoting: gmurrayt
Done strictly so cap works with the Gardiner signing. Not because common sense is used. Montreal did not sign a back up goalie just to bury him. If by chance Montreal does still sign someone to a 6 mil contract, (not Gardiner) it won't be Kinkaid that will be moved somewhere for cap relief.


Quoting: mr_z
Kinkaid buried. Interesting.


True haha ... didn't know who to put in goal. Kinkaid does save more cap space when in the minors but you're right. They just signed him for 1.75M so they probably won't send him down. May get claimed on waivers if they do anyway.
 
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