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3 line team

Créé par: mhockey91
Date de création initiale: jun 18, 2019
Publié: Jun 18 at 4:12 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Fleury, Haydn21 200 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach21 100 000 $
Pettersson, Marcus42 600 000 $
Blueger, Teddy1975 000 $
CRÉÉANNÉESCAP HIT
Line winger, 4th11 500 000 $
Transactions
PIT
  1. 2019 2e round pick (FLA)
OTT
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. 2019 1e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Fleury, Haydn [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Jarry, Tristan
  2. 2019 4e round pick (BUF)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
FLA
PIT
TBL
PIT
VGK
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 000 000 $80 882 500 $132 500 $2 850 000 $2 117 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
925 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
4 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
PIT
Kessel, Phil
6 800 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Line winger, 4th
1 500 000 $
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 100 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
975 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
2 600 000 $
DG
RFA
PIT
Schultz, Justin
5 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Fleury, Haydn
1 200 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
PIT
Gudbranson, Erik
4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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18 jun à 16h13
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Ragsandboltsfan
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Petterson overpaid by about double and try chiasson for 4RW
18 jun à 16h16
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Petterson overpaid by about double and try chiasson for 4RW


I think he can be a top 4 LHD. He’ll probably get a bridge though
18 jun à 16h16
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Petterson overpaid by about double and try chiasson for 4RW


I think chiasson is looking for 2-3 mil tho which is an overpayment for a 4th liner
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18 jun à 16h17
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Quoting: mhockey91
I think he can be a top 4 LHD. He’ll probably get a bridge though


Well then you should probably put him over fleury then
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18 jun à 16h17
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Quoting: klondikebar
I think chiasson is looking for 2-3 mil tho which is an overpayment for a 4th liner


Bring fehr back?
18 jun à 16h18
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Bring fehr back?


idk, but theres always options on the UFA market so its not a big worry
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18 jun à 16h48
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JJ does not cost a 1st to move and I highly doubt the penguins cough up that pick. Lots of people have the penguins taking Raphael Lavoie in the draft. Which frankly makes a lot of sense. 6'4, big fast can score. RW which the penguins have none of in their prospect pool.
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18 jun à 16h49
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Quoting: pharrow
JJ does not cost a 1st to move and I highly doubt the penguins cough up that pick. Lots of people have the penguins taking Raphael Lavoie in the draft. Which frankly makes a lot of sense. 6'4, big fast can score. RW which the penguins have none of in their prospect pool.


Then swap Florida’s 2nd with Ottawa’s 2nd. They’ll still get a really good player at 32nd overall
18 jun à 17h38
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Quoting: mhockey91
Then swap Florida’s 2nd with Ottawa’s 2nd. They’ll still get a really good player at 32nd overall


Giving up a 1st rounder on a prospect starved team just to dump Johnson is the definition of insanity. You're better than this.
18 jun à 17h45
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Quoting: pharrow
JJ does not cost a 1st to move and I highly doubt the penguins cough up that pick. Lots of people have the penguins taking Raphael Lavoie in the draft. Which frankly makes a lot of sense. 6'4, big fast can score. RW which the penguins have none of in their prospect pool.


I think we're drafting him or Seider. However predicting past the top 10 is kinda hard.
18 jun à 18h33
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
Giving up a 1st rounder on a prospect starved team just to dump Johnson is the definition of insanity. You're better than this.


once again, anyone pens draft is not going to help us in the Crosby/malkin era. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ryan-Wilson/Penguins-shouldnt-draft-a-player-with-pick-21/177/100027
18 jun à 19h23
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Quoting: mhockey91
once again, anyone pens draft is not going to help us in the Crosby/malkin era. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ryan-Wilson/Penguins-shouldnt-draft-a-player-with-pick-21/177/100027


I can agree with the first two options in that article. I will never agree with the third. Trading a 1st round pick to cut you losses is more dreadful than signing Johnson in the first place.

I don't agree that anyone they draft with the 21st overall pick in this year's draft wont help then in the Crosby-Malkin era. This draft is very deep. It is not out of the question that whoever they get could be NHL ready in 2 or 3 years. Those penguin teams will be in even more need of youth and speed then than they are now.
18 jun à 19h38
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
I can agree with the first two options in that article. I will never agree with the third. Trading a 1st round pick to cut you losses is more dreadful than signing Johnson in the first place.

I don't agree that anyone they draft with the 21st overall pick in this year's draft wont help then in the Crosby-Malkin era. This draft is very deep. It is not out of the question that whoever they get could be NHL ready in 2 or 3 years. Those penguin teams will be in even more need of youth and speed then than they are now.


Exactly. It’s a deep draft. Pens could afford to drop 10 spots (if they get Ottawa’s 2nd) to drop Johnson’s contract. It’s not like they’re “trading a first to drop Johnson”. They’ll still get an early second round pick back. Think of it as a much better Ryan reaves Trade. I would rather Pittsburgh move Johnson another way obviously, but that would be more difficult/unlikely
18 jun à 19h53
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Quoting: mhockey91
Exactly. It’s a deep draft. Pens could afford to drop 10 spots (if they get Ottawa’s 2nd) to drop Johnson’s contract. It’s not like they’re “trading a first to drop Johnson”. They’ll still get an early second round pick back. Think of it as a much better Ryan reaves Trade. I would rather Pittsburgh move Johnson another way obviously, but that would be more difficult/unlikely


I was going to reference the Reaves trade before. I was assuming that you were not in favor of that move.

Moving Johnson like that could only make sense to me if there was a very good use for his cap money.

I still think there is a move to be made moving Johnson for another teams bad contract and hope that player is a better fit.
18 jun à 20h01
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
I was going to reference the Reaves trade before. I was assuming that you were not in favor of that move.

Moving Johnson like that could only make sense to me if there was a very good use for his cap money.

I still think there is a move to be made moving Johnson for another teams bad contract and hope that player is a better fit.


The reaves Trade was brutal but I think this is a better move. I could still see rask for Johnson tbh
19 jun à 4h24
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Quoting: mhockey91
once again, anyone pens draft is not going to help us in the Crosby/malkin era. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ryan-Wilson/Penguins-shouldnt-draft-a-player-with-pick-21/177/100027


people keep saying that but it's not true. You just don't know that. Raphael Lavoie is 6'4 200lbs, big fast, and has good hands. He's the exact type of guy who can come in fast. You aren't talking about a player who needs to add size, strength, etc... He has it and he's a solid skater.
On top of it, losing out on a talent like that in order to move a bad contract is insane. Furthermore, JJ just doesn't cost a 1st to move. Have you seen the run on defense men lately. It's just starting too. Someone out there will take him off their hands because the market is drying up and a lot of teams are still looking for defense.

Quoting: Hockeylover360
I think we're drafting him or Seider. However predicting past the top 10 is kinda hard.


Ain't that the truth. Hell anything out of the top 3 can usually go all over the place. I'm thinking cole caufield goves top 5. Most people have him top 10 due to size, but he's clearly the best pure goal scorer in the draft.
19 jun à 6h04
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Quoting: pharrow
people keep saying that but it's not true. You just don't know that. Raphael Lavoie is 6'4 200lbs, big fast, and has good hands. He's the exact type of guy who can come in fast. You aren't talking about a player who needs to add size, strength, etc... He has it and he's a solid skater.
On top of it, losing out on a talent like that in order to move a bad contract is insane. Furthermore, JJ just doesn't cost a 1st to move. Have you seen the run on defense men lately. It's just starting too. Someone out there will take him off their hands because the market is drying up and a lot of teams are still looking for defense.



Ain't that the truth. Hell anything out of the top 3 can usually go all over the place. I'm thinking cole caufield goves top 5. Most people have him top 10 due to size, but he's clearly the best pure goal scorer in the draft.


I don't see the Hawks, Avs or Kings taking Cole Caufield. He screams Oilers. None of these teams are taking a winger honestly.
19 jun à 9h48
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
I don't see the Hawks, Avs or Kings taking Cole Caufield. He screams Oilers. None of these teams are taking a winger honestly.


I don't know, the kings could use help everywhere. In general I have always thought drafting by position is a mistake and leads to reaching. You have to take the best player available, especially at the top of the draft. I don't think there is a better pure goal scorer in the draft. His shot is that good. Lots of accuracy. It's hard to rack up 72 goals in any level of hockey. Hell Mathews only racked up 55 in 4 less games and he went 1st over all and is considered a generational talent. So I'm not sure anyone is going to let this kid drop that low. I would take him.
19 jun à 10h47
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Quoting: pharrow
I don't know, the kings could use help everywhere. In general I have always thought drafting by position is a mistake and leads to reaching. You have to take the best player available, especially at the top of the draft. I don't think there is a better pure goal scorer in the draft. His shot is that good. Lots of accuracy. It's hard to rack up 72 goals in any level of hockey. Hell Mathews only racked up 55 in 4 less games and he went 1st over all and is considered a generational talent. So I'm not sure anyone is going to let this kid drop that low. I would take him.


The Kings might draft Byram or a WHL center. They're a team that would never take a small goal scorer.
19 jun à 10h50
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
The Kings might draft Byram or a WHL center. They're a team that would never take a small goal scorer.


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