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(SJS / OTT) - Karlsson, Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers & picks

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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 44
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A trade between San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators has been confirmed.
Détails de la transaction
Les Sénateurs d'Ottawa font l’acquisition de:
Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Joshua Norris (Droits de signature)
Choix conditionnel de 1e ronde en 2020* (SJS)
Choix conditionnel de 2e ronde en 2021** (SJS)
Choix conditionnel de 2e ronde en 2019*** (FLA - #44 - Jamieson Rees)
Choix conditionnel de 1e ronde****

****Les Sens reçoivent un choix de 1e ronde des Sharks (au plus tard 2022) si Karlsson se retrouve avec une équipe de l'Est durant la saison 2018-19.
****Les Sens reçoivent un choix de 1e ronde des Sharks (au plus tard en 2022) si Karlsson fait partie de l'alignement d'une équipe de l'Est (liste de réserve) pendant la saison 2018-2019.

****Résultat : La condition n'ayant pas été respectée, aucun choix n'est transféré.
*Conditions: Ottawa reçoit le choix de 1e ronde des Sharks en 2019 si les Sharks ne se qualifient pas pour les séries. En cas contraire, les Sénateurs recevront le choix de 1e ronde des Sharks en 2020.

Résultat : Ottawa reçoit le choix de 1e ronde en 2020 des Sharks, étant donné que ces derniers se sont qualifiés pour les séries de 2019.
**Conditions: Le choix de 3e ronde en 2020 deviendra un choix de 2e ronde en 2020 si les Sharks se rendent jusqu'en finale de la Coupe Stanley ou si Nyquist signe un nouveau contrat à San Jose.
**Résultat : Karlsson s'est entendu avec les Sharks sur les termes d'un nouveau contrat, mais ces derniers ne se sont pas rendus en finale de la coupe Stanley. Ottawa reçoit donc le choix de 2e ronde des Sharks en 2021.
***Conditions: Le choix de 2e ronde en 2019 se veut le plus haut parmi les deux choix détenus par les Sharks: celui des Panthers et le leur.

***Résultat : Ottawa recevra le choix de 2e ronde des Panthers en 2019.
13 sep 2018 à 14 h 45
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

How does Wilson keep doing this?
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 47
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THE PICKS ARE ALL CONDITIONAL
13 sep 2018 à 14 h 48
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How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 49
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Winner? Loser? This is a no brainer.

What is the condition? If Melnyk leaves they get the picks and this clownshow can finally end?

That Sharks Blue Line now. Sweet Jesus!
13 sep 2018 à 14 h 49
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And the Avs are even better positioned to draft Jack Hughes next year now, and they don't even have to lose for him ...
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 49
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Condition for one of the 1sts: If Karlsson plays for an Eastern Conference team, Ottawa gets another 1st. Pathetic. Dorion is a ****ing idiot.
13 sep 2018 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?


No Merkley, no Meier, no LeBanc. They got a 3rd line center, a college player who could choose not to sign there, and a few picks. Yeesh
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 52
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Hard to say that Sharks aren't the CLEAR winners here haha.
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
How did Ottawa not get at least Merkley out of this?


Because of their "commitment to leadership." neutral
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 54
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Ottawa did get SJ's 2017 1st round selection, a 2020 1st round pick, a 2019 2nd round pick, and a potential 2021 2nd rounder. All for a guy, regardless of how great he is, who only has 1 year left on his contract. I would say Ottawa got a pretty good return, given that there is no guarantee Karlsson will sign with SJ long term (or any other team for that matter, with the exception of maybe TB.) If SJ ends up winning a cup because of this, then it was clearly a great trade for them, but that is a big IF.
13 sep 2018 à 14 h 55
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Whoever voted fair deal has to be a delusional Sens fan.
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 56
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Embarassing for OTT
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13 sep 2018 à 14 h 56
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And the winner of the day... Colorado Avalanche with the biggest chance to get Hugues next year.
13 sep 2018 à 15 h 00
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Wow that is an atrocious deal for OTT
13 sep 2018 à 15 h 00
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If if there is no extension, this is a farcical return for OTT franchise player. I genuinely feel bad for Sens fans at this point, their franchise is one gigantic tire fire.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 02
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*Steve dangle voice* sens fans if I were you. . . Find the nearest LCBO.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 02
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This is a franchise altering type trade. Dorion whiffed on it. He traded the best player the franchise has ever had, for what? I'm higher on Josh Norris than most are, but he probably maxes out as a 2C. Balcers is nice, but he's a complementary piece. Tierney and Demelo are just roster players that they don't need. They got a 2020 1st, when they still don't have a 2019 1st. Two more picks are nice, but the chances any of this becomes worth just 1 season of Erik Karlsson is nuts.

Dorion has whiffed on two huge trades for this franchise, and it's left them in a hell hole. He now has my distinction as the worst GM in the game right now. The worst roster in the game and no first round pick or elite prospects to show for it.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 08
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I'm sad.... legit sad... no excitement at all for the upcoming year...
13 sep 2018 à 15 h 11
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Can't wait to see how Dorion handles trading Duchene and Stone lol. Feel bad for Sens fans though.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 21
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This will go down as maybe the worst trade of all time.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 40
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How do you get less for Karlsson than what you gave up for duchene
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 46
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Quoting: krakowitz
This is a franchise altering type trade. Dorion whiffed on it. He traded the best player the franchise has ever had, for what? I'm higher on Josh Norris than most are, but he probably maxes out as a 2C. Balcers is nice, but he's a complementary piece. Tierney and Demelo are just roster players that they don't need. They got a 2020 1st, when they still don't have a 2019 1st. Two more picks are nice, but the chances any of this becomes worth just 1 season of Erik Karlsson is nuts.

Dorion has whiffed on two huge trades for this franchise, and it's left them in a hell hole. He now has my distinction as the worst GM in the game right now. The worst roster in the game and no first round pick or elite prospects to show for it.


I'm agreeing with you on most things, but they got some prospects... Chabot made the jump last year and is now automatically the number 1 in Ottawa pretty much, there's Tkatchuk, Brown, White, Formenton, Batherson, Luchuk, and now Norris. Defence prospects are slim beyond Bernard-Docker though.
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 55
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Pacioretty got a better return lmao
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13 sep 2018 à 15 h 59
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