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Minnesota Wild signed Jason Zucker (5 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

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25 jui 2018 à 15h39
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Jason Zucker has signed a new contract with the Minnesota Wild.
CONTRAT STANDARD
COMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 5 ANNÉES
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Wild du MinnesotaWild du Minnesota
VALEUR: 27 500 000 $
% DU C.H. : 6,92
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 25 juillet 2018
SOURCE: @RussoHockey
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2018-195 500 000 $5 500 000 $0 $0 $5 000 000 $5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
2019-20Clause de non-échange limitée5 500 000 $5 500 000 $0 $0 $6 250 000 $6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
2020-21Clause de non-échange limitée5 500 000 $5 500 000 $0 $0 $4 800 000 $4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
2021-22Clause de non-échange limitée5 500 000 $5 500 000 $0 $0 $6 250 000 $6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
2022-23Clause de non-échange limitée5 500 000 $5 500 000 $0 $0 $5 200 000 $5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
TOTAL27 500 000 $27 500 000 $0 $0 $27 500 000 $27 500 000 $27 500 000 $
DÉTAILS DE LA CLAUSE: Le joueur soumet une liste de 10 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé.
SOURCE: @RussoHockey
25 jui 2018 à 15h40
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All depends on wether or not he can maintain his production from last season
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25 jui 2018 à 15h56
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This is exactly where I expected him to be. if he continues to do what he did last year or get better this could be a very nice contract for MIN
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25 jui 2018 à 16h49
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Dude just does not have the history to support this beyond this past season. If he continues that kind of production it's an amazing deal, otherwise overpaid. Should've gone with a bridge deal. 4.5M for 2 years makes more sense plus gets him to UFA territory and a potentially even better contract if he excels. Seems like a player who doesn't have faith in himself to succeed. I get that it's great job security he has now but if he continued his production for another season or two he could easily be making 6.5M-7M per year. Especially if the cap continues to rise.
25 jui 2018 à 16h59
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Modifié 25 jui 2018 à 17h35
Quoting: loganreid
Dude just does not have the history to support this beyond this past season. If he continues that kind of production it's an amazing deal, otherwise overpaid. Should've gone with a bridge deal. 4.5M for 2 years makes more sense plus gets him to UFA territory and a potentially even better contract if he excels. Seems like a player who doesn't have faith in himself to succeed. I get that it's great job security he has now but if he continued his production for another season or two he could easily be making 6.5M-7M per year. Especially if the cap continues to rise.


Dude is 26 years old with 3 NHL seasons played. The contract takes him to 31 year old, which is where you get a retirement contract for 6 year at an absurd aav (see Ladd, Eriksson, etc.). If he keeps up his pace he gets paid another time, but if not he can live happily without stress.
25 jui 2018 à 17h05
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Money is fair, term is too long. Voted no, but am really more meh.
25 jui 2018 à 17h08
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Quoting: Swisspred
Dude is 26 years old with 3 NHL seasons played. The contract takes him to 31 year old, which is where you get a retirement contract for 6 year at an absurd aav (see Ladd, Eriksson, etc.). If he keeps up his pace he gets payed another time, but if not he can live happily without stress.


It's been 4 full seasons (with some injuries) and a couple where he shuttled back and forth between the AHL and NHL every time Yeo thought Zucker looked at him wrong. The rest of your comment makes sense but I just wanted to point out that he's not some late bloomer who barely has 3 years under his belt. He scored an OT GWG in the 2013 playoffs for us so he's been around a little while.
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25 jui 2018 à 18h13
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Zucker was fantastic last year but he did have 44 points the year before that so this is a good signing. Exact number is probably wrong but who cares.
25 jui 2018 à 18h20
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Good deal IMO.
Nylander should get about the same.
25 jui 2018 à 18h24
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Again, no surprise, if you compare to other with similar stats, age and whatever.
25 jui 2018 à 19h13
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Quoting: JonJon
Again, no surprise, if you compare to other with similar stats, age and whatever.


I hear the "whatever" component is the most important factor when comparing players.... awesome face
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25 jui 2018 à 20h09
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Quoting: loganreid
Dude just does not have the history to support this beyond this past season. If he continues that kind of production it's an amazing deal, otherwise overpaid. Should've gone with a bridge deal. 4.5M for 2 years makes more sense plus gets him to UFA territory and a potentially even better contract if he excels. Seems like a player who doesn't have faith in himself to succeed. I get that it's great job security he has now but if he continued his production for another season or two he could easily be making 6.5M-7M per year. Especially if the cap continues to rise.


Can't bridge a guy that would be a UFA
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25 jui 2018 à 22h18
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Look at the Wild...almost at the cap. And next year they have some RFA signings with just one UFA leaving, 3.5m Staal. An average at best Wild team, has cap restraints. Lots of average players making too much money
25 jui 2018 à 23h14
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Quoting: palhal
Look at the Wild...almost at the cap. And next year they have some RFA signings with just one UFA leaving, 3.5m Staal. An average at best Wild team, has cap restraints. Lots of average players making too much money


Meh 1 RFA that is (currently) looking like a low priced bridge deal and Staal re-signing is all the only real contracts that need to be taken care of. As long as JEE and Staal come in at less than a combined $8m they should be okay as long as the cap doesn't stagnate again.

The drag is Parise's contract, if he was earning his ~$7.5m salary the team would look a whole lot more dangerous.

I wouldn't say the Wild are a lock for the Playoffs by any means, but they could finish anywhere from 1st-last in the Division and I really wouldn't be surprised. Injuries really made the FWD groups look worse they than should have been last year.
25 jui 2018 à 23h34
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Botterill in buffalo has got to like this contract as Reinhart was probable asking for more than 5.5m$AVA. especially after the Lindholm contract
26 jui 2018 à 1h49
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
I hear the "whatever" component is the most important factor when comparing players.... awesome face


I hear myself repeating same argument...
26 jui 2018 à 9h38
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It is a pretty good deal. He's been a high volume shooter in his time in the NHL, and scores most of his goals 5 on 5. I wouldn't be too worried about him slipping back to a point where he isn't worth it, as long as they give him enough ice time.

Quoting: Trickster
Good deal IMO.
Nylander should get about the same.


Nylander will get quite a bit more in AAV. First off, he isn't likely signing a 5 year deal, so most likely it would cost more to buy additional years of UFA status. Also, he is going to be compared against guys who put up points at similar rates at a similar age. He compares pretty well to a group of forwards who ranged over $6M per year when the cap was lower. So I would say Nylander comes in at somewhere between $6.5-$7M depending on the term.
26 jui 2018 à 10h38
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Quoting: loganreid
Dude just does not have the history to support this beyond this past season. If he continues that kind of production it's an amazing deal, otherwise overpaid. Should've gone with a bridge deal. 4.5M for 2 years makes more sense plus gets him to UFA territory and a potentially even better contract if he excels. Seems like a player who doesn't have faith in himself to succeed. I get that it's great job security he has now but if he continued his production for another season or two he could easily be making 6.5M-7M per year. Especially if the cap continues to rise.


So any player that signs a long-term deal before he becomes a UFA doesn't have faith in himself to succeed? Some guys just want a sense of financial security.
 
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